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10-27-2011 01:32 PM
casey1999
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Originally Posted by ereiss View Post
1. I don't know if insurance will cover it but I put it in the category of "it's worth a try". They had the survey come out this week to look at it. We'll see what happens.

Now have pricing and choices;

1. Rebuild by Mack Boring, 6 month warranty (from when it splashes in the spring) cost, about $8,200 all in (remove, rebuild, reinstall).
2. Can purchase a new Beta30 for about the same amount but install will be somewhere between 50 and 100 hours.

So option 2 costs twice as much as option 1 (no, not planning on doing a self install even though Beta says 50% of buyers do it themselves). I have a hard time thinking that new is twice as good or will add that much "value" to the boat if/when it needs to be sold.

What am I missing (other than piece of mind)?
I would go with the rebuild. That rebuild engine might be better than a new one, or at least last as long. When you splash her, run the engine a lot in first 6 months, if it is good for 6 months I would think it will be good for a long time.

If you do decide to go with the Beta, would be nice to get a fixed install price in the low end of the range.
Good luck
10-26-2011 09:00 PM
smurphny Did you need a new block? 8K sounds like a lot if all they need to do is replace a piston and rod.
10-26-2011 06:39 PM
aa3jy
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Originally Posted by ereiss View Post
What am I missing (other than piece of mind)?
Well for starters you can put a proper engine for the size boat that you have. About a 35 hp engine min. would be needed for your 38 Freedom..however..what I found interesting ..when I looked at the Freedom 38's on Yacht World that where for sale..they all had 3GM30's with one exception and that one had a 3YM30.
10-26-2011 04:43 PM
aa3jy If it's determined to be an accident then it should be covered
10-26-2011 04:21 PM
ereiss
murdered 3gm 30

1. I don't know if insurance will cover it but I put it in the category of "it's worth a try". They had the survey come out this week to look at it. We'll see what happens.

Now have pricing and choices;

1. Rebuild by Mack Boring, 6 month warranty (from when it splashes in the spring) cost, about $8,200 all in (remove, rebuild, reinstall).
2. Can purchase a new Beta30 for about the same amount but install will be somewhere between 50 and 100 hours.

So option 2 costs twice as much as option 1 (no, not planning on doing a self install even though Beta says 50% of buyers do it themselves). I have a hard time thinking that new is twice as good or will add that much "value" to the boat if/when it needs to be sold.

What am I missing (other than piece of mind)?
10-26-2011 01:29 PM
hellosailor Insurance? That covers hydrolocking your engine??

Some kind of private extended warranty company?
10-26-2011 01:28 PM
casey1999
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Originally Posted by aa3jy View Post
I'd seriously consider the new engine route..as I explained privately as to why..
Could you fill us in as to why?
10-26-2011 11:41 AM
aa3jy I'd seriously consider the new engine route..as I explained privately as to why..
10-25-2011 07:37 AM
ereiss
yanmar killer update

Well, the insurance company sent a surveyor to look at the engine (we'll see where that goes). Asked for the #3 piston and rod to be removed for examination.

Mack Boring is pricing out a rebuild as they don't have a rebuild in stock. Still waiting to see what the delta would be for replace versus rebuild. Did get an excellent price for a Beta30 which is certainly tempting.

The rebuild will take 2 weeks from when the insurance company completes its review so I will find myself moving the boat to its winter home (Bristol, RI) around Thanksgiving, brrrrrr.

Thank you, all of your thoughtful responses.
10-25-2011 12:53 AM
hellosailor e-
With remanufactured engines, everything rests on the reputation of the shop. Mack Boring has a good rep, and they also teach owners how to work on their own engines. Depending on where you are and timing...one opiotn might be to call someone there, tell 'em what you did, and ask if this could become a 'teach me how to work on my engine' in some way, so that you could be there either watching, or learning, or apprenticing in the rebuild. Can't hurt to ask.

Other than the rep of the shop, you want to know the warranty they'll give you, and that they are following full factory spec, i.e. not reusing anything that is supposed to be replaced during a rebuild. (Some bolts are torque-and-use-once, others can be reused.)

Even with reputation, if it is at all possible, eyeball the shop. A clean shop where no one is screaming, is always a good sign. If the floors and bathrooms are a mess--so's the work.

If you aren't comfortable with anyone local, I'd recommend Vosbury Marine in Annapolis. A family-owned business with a great name, absolutely top folks to deal with if they can take Yanmar. (I don[t give that kind of praise lightly.) They deliver on time, on price, and they'll tell you up front what your options are going to involve.
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