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03-14-2007 01:06 PM
Archis Anybody have a recommedation for a surveyor in Annapolis? I've found an old 70's vintage pearson, any may take the big plunge.
09-06-2006 08:01 PM
LyleRussell Try getting on the BoatUS web site. They have lists of brokers that they recommend for their insurance surveys.

www.boatus.com
09-04-2006 11:11 PM
lasailor thanks for the input. I've worked with some brokers in my area and I find they are interested in selling you what they have listed but otherwise are not too keen on earning their commission. About the best I got was a listing off of yachtworld on some boats - which I'm capable of doing myself.
09-04-2006 07:27 PM
ebs001 Just as one works with a realestate agent when one is a purchaser of a house, one can enlist the services of a broker when one is the purchaser of a boat and he is "your broker". This is a very common practice. While the selling broker has to share the fee he gets the other half when he acts as the buying broker. In realestate this is generally covered by statute. Boat brokering is less regulated. People usually get a realestate agent to help with the purchase of a home. It only makes sense when making a major purchase of boat that you employ someone who's on your side.
In this particular case I agree with SailingFool it may be a bit awkward, however he may not have the legal right to tell your broker to get lost. But others should take advantage of this "free" service. When you buy a boat employ a broker, your broker and as I said before it's a very common practice.
09-04-2006 07:08 PM
sailingfool Call Tony Knowles, he only books full days, but his reputation is outstanding.

Newport Marine Surveyors Group
7 Baldwin Road
Middletown, Rhode Island
401-849-1560-O, 401-849-1074-Fax
tksurvey@cox.net
09-04-2006 07:06 PM
sailingdog I would contact a few of the boat yards and marinas in the area, not the one that has the boat you're interested in, and ask them for surveyor recommendations.
09-04-2006 05:56 PM
lasailor I was wondering if anyone could give me a name of a good surveyor in the Providence RI area. I'm goint up that way to look at a boat early next week and may have the need of a surveyor.

The boat has a recent survey which I hope to look at. I do not want to use the same surveyor though. My experience with inspecting ships is that everyone has areas where they are great and other areas where they miss something. So I would hope to get a new set of eyes on the boat if I want to move past tire-kicking (or rig shaking).....

Thanks
09-04-2006 10:37 AM
sailingfool
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Originally Posted by ebs001
I think it's always advisable to use a broker. He acts the same way a realestate broker protecting your interest as well as providing a knowledge base that goes beyond what a normal buyer would know. If you haven't signed any papers yet a broker can advise you on conditions you should include in your offer to ensure you don't get shafted. He also know the fair market value of the boat. As I said before,as long as you are buying a brokerage boat, it costs you nothing and it costs the seller no more. It's free for you so why not take advantage of it. If it's a private deal then it will cost, however.
While I agree 100% that it makes sense to work with a trusted broker during the boat search process who can advise you and do your footwork, I'm not sure that broker is really "your" broker, and it would be very akward to bring another broker into an in-process sale. If I were the listing broker, I'd tell you to get lost at that point - you are asking him to split the selling fee with someone who has not contributed to the sale. I am not aware of yacht brokers who contract as "buyers' brokers - not that it may not happen, I just haven't seen it myself. Usually when you work with "your" broker who links you to a listing broker, both brokers are paid by the seller, and strictly speaking, are the sellers' representatives. If you want advice about the purchase agreement, take the standard agreement have have a lawyer review and adjust (http://www.oceanmarinellc.com/broker...0and%20sale%22) ,

As to the C&C 34, you should understand that this model represented C&Cs' first use of a cored hull, and based on the damage that can occur from sriking a hard object (and not necessarily striking that object hard...) they were obviusly not far up the learing curve. I knew the owner of one of the first 34s, when he pulled the boat after the first season, cracks at the front and back of the hull dripped for weeks due to water absorbed by the hull from hitting a rock. Damage to the keel itself was neglible. Racing out of Boston habor, hitting rocks was a common occurance and with the original C&Cs was never a cause for concern. FWIW the C&C 35 mark II is a much better boat in every regard, for my last purchase I looked for one for a year before I went elsewhwere.
09-04-2006 08:29 AM
ebs001 I think it's always advisable to use a broker. He acts the same way a realestate broker protecting your interest as well as providing a knowledge base that goes beyond what a normal buyer would know. If you haven't signed any papers yet a broker can advise you on conditions you should include in your offer to ensure you don't get shafted. He also know the fair market value of the boat. As I said before,as long as you are buying a brokerage boat, it costs you nothing and it costs the seller no more. It's free for you so why not take advantage of it. If it's a private deal then it will cost, however.
09-03-2006 08:53 PM
Rodz47 bes001 .... you WON'T believe .... this is the name the broker gave me. Since this is long weekend I hope I get another recommendation for this fellow. I am going to call him onTuesday. As for a broker, I think it is too late because I agree on the price already but I have not signed any paper yet. Is it advisable to have own broker at this stage? What would be his role??
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