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10-29-2011 04:23 PM
TakeFive After rereading OP's original message, I don't understand why the harbormaster would recommend leaving the mast up on the hard. I can see leaving it up in the water, since the added moment of inertia and windage can actually reduce pitching and rolling of the boat, but on the hard the mast offers nothing but added risk to his and his neighbors' boats.
10-29-2011 04:16 PM
PCP The boats that have fell down had not a proper cradle. If you are going to put it on dry have a proper set up. With wind the boat can oscillate slightly and that can be enough for a separated support to move till it fall down. A good cradle is a sound investment

Regards

Paulo
10-29-2011 04:12 PM
TakeFive I also witnessed one of those last season, and we're over 60 miles inland from the coast:



In BLJ's pic, notice the boat with the meticulously crafted canvas cover. This highlights one other benefit of dropping the mast - you can buy a cheap $20 tarp to cover it instead of paying thousands for a custom cover to accommodate all the shrouds, etc.

You say dropping the mast is an easy 2 person job, so you probably don't need a gin pole. But you can turn it into a one person job with a gin pole - do some searching to see if there's a configuration that works for your boat. Here's a shot of one that I built:

10-29-2011 03:56 PM
bljones Is Clint Eastwood your harbourmaster?
ie, "Do you feel lucky, punk?"

9 winters out of 10, you'll have no problem leaving the mast up. It's the 10th winter that is a royal beeotch.
So...do you feel lucky?
Every other season, these guys were lucky. Last season, not so much:






It doesn't take a lot of time to drop the stick, but it can take weeks to get a new one. Why take the risk?

Especially in Tennessee. Methinks keeping the stick up in tornado country is just thumbing your nose at Fate.
10-29-2011 02:50 PM
Barquito If you don't have to pay to take the mast down, I would. It is a lot easier to cover with the mast down.
10-29-2011 02:48 PM
Barquito
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PS. If the boat is stored in the water, the harbor masters suggestion is a good one as it should reduce/slow down the rolling action of the boat when the seas get up.

Why would that be the case? (leaving the mast up) Wouldn't removing the mast lower the center of gravity and increase the righting movement? That would reduce rolling action.
It would slow the roll, just like having a pendulum with a long arm vs short arm.
10-29-2011 11:05 AM
Hudsonian Pulling the mast will reduce the load on the chainplates and, thereby, reduce the stress at the chainplate deck joint. With the mast down you'll be able to pull and inspect the chainplates and recaulk the joint. You'll be able to polish and wax the mast. It's amazing how much it improves the appearance of the boat.
10-29-2011 09:22 AM
Minnewaska
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.....I pull my mast for the winter every 3-4 years so we can make a close inspection of fittings, sheeve boxes, etc.......
Same here. It's just flat out easier to spring commission without having to re-step and, more importantly, re-tune the rig to get back on the water. Maybe just a tweak or two. Albeit, an SJ21 would not be as tough.

The big downside to leaving the stick in, if you have a keel stepped mast, is it will allow water down the mast and into the bilge, which can then freeze and ruin bilge switches, etc. Trust me, you can't add enough antifreeze to prevent it.

I'm installing a garboard plug for the first time this year.
10-29-2011 09:15 AM
CorvetteGuy The boat does not move in a craddle the same as it does in the water therefore the forces on the mast step and cabin top are much greater in heavy winds and temperature drops. For the small effort it takes , take it down and dont stress the boat. I am also in Canada so the temp gets very cold and fiberglass along with it
10-28-2011 11:53 PM
LinekinBayCD
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PS. If the boat is stored in the water, the harbor masters suggestion is a good one as it should reduce/slow down the rolling action of the boat when the seas get up.
Why would that be the case? (leaving the mast up) Wouldn't removing the mast lower the center of gravity and increase the righting movement? That would reduce rolling action.
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