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Topic Review (Newest First)
07-22-2013 04:23 PM
abrahamx
Re: New sails, brands, quality, price.

Wondering what sails you went with and how they are holding up?
06-26-2013 12:30 AM
wolfenzee
Re: New sails, brands, quality, price.

Sobstad is the one that interested me.....not one of the "budget sailmakers", I don't think they were not who you were talking about, they just gave me a quote back, almost next day.....so are taking orders
06-26-2013 12:01 AM
TakeFive
Re: New sails, brands, quality, price.

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Originally Posted by wolfenzee View Post
I haven't had a new sail cut yet, that will be a while before I can afford it, I might just go with a "retired" racing sail, still lots of life in it for my application, but not in the eyes of the racer who is selling it. The possibility of finding a sail that would fit my boat are astronomical (but I did). The closest one design or production boat to mine is an International 11meter, even that is a little short in foot and leech (but the extreme roach makes up the difference considering I had a batten-less sail with a hollow roach).
When I have a sailmaker measure my boat I will have all the particulars measured, aside from the basics like foot/luff/leech/out haul/reefing tackle on boom etc. I also have a noticeable mast bend and with a tad of rake as well as limited amount of space to the backstay....a good sailmaker will be able to get all these plus somethings I couldn't think of and put it together for any one who wants to make me a sail.
OK, good enough. One of the sailmakers that you listed above has developed a terrible reputation (F rating from BBB), disconnected their phone, dozens of negative messages here and on onther websites, and their website says they are no longer taking orders (verified this today). Check any online suppliers out very carefully before you send any money.
06-25-2013 11:19 PM
wolfenzee
Re: New sails, brands, quality, price.

I haven't had a new sail cut yet, that will be a while before I can afford it, I might just go with a "retired" racing sail, still lots of life in it for my application, but not in the eyes of the racer who is selling it. The possibility of finding a sail that would fit my boat are astronomical (but I did). The closest one design or production boat to mine is an International 11meter, even that is a little short in foot and leech (but the extreme roach makes up the difference considering I had a batten-less sail with a hollow roach).
When I have a sailmaker measure my boat I will have all the particulars measured, aside from the basics like foot/luff/leech/out haul/reefing tackle on boom etc. I also have a noticeable mast bend and with a tad of rake as well as limited amount of space to the backstay....a good sailmaker will be able to get all these plus somethings I couldn't think of and put it together for any one who wants to make me a sail.
06-25-2013 05:34 PM
TakeFive
Re: New sails, brands, quality, price.

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Originally Posted by wolfenzee View Post
As the next sail I need to replace is my mainsail I have been looking carefully at different sail makers. I have discovered that not only do the prices and quality vary considerably, the differences in price do not always follow the differences in quality. Yes if you pay an exorbitant amount for a sail you will probably get a really good sail.....but you can get a really good sail at a low price or a poor quality sail for the same amount (or even more). I have found a number of sailmakers that would make me a new sail for about the same price. Sobstad (both Dacron and laminate), Kelly-Hanson and Mack sails both make decent sails and are about the least expensive (actually they guarantee it), there are a few others I have researched.......basically I can expect to pay between $2000-$2500 (including laminate sails) for my boat. Because of the importance of the mainsail being cut right and how long it will be with the boat, this is one sail you should not cut corners on. One thing I stress is to have a good sailmaker measure all of the particulars of your boat, every boat has slight differences. Sort of like an off the rack suit compared to one tailored specifically for you, "off the rack sails" even on a production boat, never fit as well as a sail made specifically to your boat for your sailing needs.
Thanks for sharing. Which one did you actually use? Were they timely with their delivery, ? Did they come to your boat and make adjustments?
06-25-2013 01:55 PM
wolfenzee
Re: New sails, brands, quality, price.

As the next sail I need to replace is my mainsail I have been looking carefully at different sail makers. I have discovered that not only do the prices and quality vary considerably, the differences in price do not always follow the differences in quality. Yes if you pay an exorbitant amount for a sail you will probably get a really good sail.....but you can get a really good sail at a low price or a poor quality sail for the same amount (or even more). I have found a number of sailmakers that would make me a new sail for about the same price. Sobstad (both Dacron and laminate), Kelly-Hanson and Mack sails both make decent sails and are about the least expensive (actually they guarantee it), there are a few others I have researched.......basically I can expect to pay between $2000-$2500 (including laminate sails) for my boat. Because of the importance of the mainsail being cut right and how long it will be with the boat, this is one sail you should not cut corners on. One thing I stress is to have a good sailmaker measure all of the particulars of your boat, every boat has slight differences. Sort of like an off the rack suit compared to one tailored specifically for you, "off the rack sails" even on a production boat, never fit as well as a sail made specifically to your boat for your sailing needs.
11-07-2011 07:55 PM
beachmont I have north sails love the service love the sails salem ma loft
11-07-2011 03:01 PM
kindsail
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Originally Posted by tomitch View Post
Only paid 1/2. Visa will be getting a call and I will encourage them to cancel his commercial account. Should be easy once they investigate.
Call your bank friend and they can reverse the charges if the acct. on his end is still active. Pursue your best interest here, bad business has no place in a service oriented society like ours. Good luck and happy sailing!
11-03-2011 01:40 PM
smurphny If you are handy with a sewing machine and have time, Sailrite sail kits are very good. They have designs and specs and do computerized cutting of the cloth sections. They sent along step by step instructions which surely added to my knowledge of this craft. I built a trysail last year that came out really well and is built with quality sailcloth and misc parts. I was able to put the time in to make sure the sail was well built and what I wanted. I will not hesitate to build another sail this way. It prompted me to go buy an old rugged commercial sewing machine (pressing your luck trying to do this on a home machine although possible) which I now keep right on the boat for repairs.
11-02-2011 10:57 PM
tomitch Only paid 1/2. Visa will be getting a call and I will encourage them to cancel his commercial account. Should be easy once they investigate.
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