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Topic Review (Newest First)
02-15-2012 08:52 AM
mdi Thomas Firth Jones, multihull enthusiast, designer and builder, said he thought the only standing headroom anyone needed was to put your pants on and he opened his hatch and stood up to do that. At the same time he suggested if you were going to liveaboard to get the largest boat you could afford.
02-14-2012 07:00 PM
therapy23
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Originally Posted by Tanley View Post
Was on one this weekend. At just shy of 6'3", I cant imagine being on one for an extended period of time. Nice enough boat, but headroom isn't it's strong suit.
It is better for me than any mono I have ever been on. I must have been on the wrong ones huh?

But then I have been dodging head bumps for 35 years everywhere else too.
02-14-2012 12:15 AM
cruisingdream I'm 6'4" and sail a 34 hunter, often single handed (head room is only about 6'3") and could be had this spring for the right price.
02-13-2012 11:35 PM
Tanley
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Originally Posted by therapy23 View Post
Buy my Gem.

One son is 6'5" and he manages. Though he is young.

My 18' Westerly was great with sitting headroom only. I was young.
Was on one this weekend. At just shy of 6'3", I cant imagine being on one for an extended period of time. Nice enough boat, but headroom isn't it's strong suit.
02-13-2012 11:35 PM
hellosailor "WOW! I never would have thought that a 38' boat would only have 6' of headroom! "
Dean, if you have a tall cabin either you make that space below the waterline--increasing depth and increasing depth before the keel even begins--or you add windage above the waterline and raise the center of gravity, or both.
All bad things for a boat. Oh, and extra cabin height means more fiberglass which raises costs again.

Wikipedia last shows the average height of the American (anglo) male at 5'10-1/2" which means six feet of cabin height will fit most of the population with room to clear. Why compromise performance and add expense just to accomodate the big guys, when they could just go out for leg reduction surgery instead? (WEG)
02-13-2012 09:04 PM
tomperanteau Our 36 footer has 6'4" in the salon and 6' in the vberth. Ours is probably a bit generous, too. I have to stoop a bit in the vberth. Where we gain, as with your boat, is in speed and sailability. Ours is a fast boat and sails very well in little wind.
02-13-2012 06:51 PM
Dean101
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Originally Posted by SaltyHog View Post
As mentioned, a tall standing room measurement will have (mostly bad) effects on other things on a boat less than ~40 Ft. High freeboard, high cabin top, etc. will be things to consider. I'm 6' and I can just stand straight (with deck shoes) in the saloon and galley of our Cabo Rico 38. I have to crouch a bit in the V-berth and head. I think that's a good compromise as the freeboard and windage are as small as reasonable, thus making her a better sailing boat. Of course it all depends on what your plans are for the boat and therefore what your priorities might be. Also, be careful of the "listed" headroom. Ours was "listed" as having 6'2", but I think that was being a bit optimistic. Hope it helps.
-Tom
WOW! I never would have thought that a 38' boat would only have 6' of headroom! I better dig a little deeper about this on some of the larger boats I have on my list. The headroom wouldn't be such an issue if I were planning only relatively short trips but I intend on living aboard as well as taking some time off (at least a couple of years) and doing some extended cruising. Even with those plans the headroom probably won't be that big an issue while transitting but I would like to be able to stand up while I'm anchored.

I do understand how interior headroom ussually adds to the windage and freeboard so I'm not looking for anything excessive, just enough to stand up straight in the galley/saloon area.

And thanks for the warning about "listed Headroom". I'll definitely keep that in mind. I've got the Cabo Rico on my list and to be quite honest, I assumed that it would have enough headroom for me. It's a sweet looking boat and has such great reviews. Unfortunately, it will probably be out of my budget range...
02-13-2012 04:03 PM
SaltyHog As mentioned, a tall standing room measurement will have (mostly bad) effects on other things on a boat less than ~40 Ft. High freeboard, high cabin top, etc. will be things to consider. I'm 6' and I can just stand straight (with deck shoes) in the saloon and galley of our Cabo Rico 38. I have to crouch a bit in the V-berth and head. I think that's a good compromise as the freeboard and windage are as small as reasonable, thus making her a better sailing boat. Of course it all depends on what your plans are for the boat and therefore what your priorities might be. Also, be careful of the "listed" headroom. Ours was "listed" as having 6'2", but I think that was being a bit optimistic. Hope it helps.
-Tom
01-30-2012 01:03 PM
therapy23
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Originally Posted by mdbee View Post
At 6'6" and needing a shallow draft, I'm screwed.
Buy my Gem.

One son is 6'5" and he manages. Though he is young.

My 18' Westerly was great with sitting headroom only. I was young.
01-30-2012 11:27 AM
hboy
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Originally Posted by Dean101 View Post
Sounds like you have about 2 more inches of trouble finding standing headroom than I do! Thanks for the list. I have the Albergs on my short list. I'm looking mainly in the 32' to 37' range and May go to 40' or 41' for the right boat but I want to keep it smaller and more manageable. I don't believe I've checked into the Aloha's. Who makes the CS 36? It doesn't sound familiar.

I've done enough stooping over at work that I'm not anxious to make that a part of my cruising regimen.

Dean
I am having a terrible time with the headroom thing. I think that I am willing to not have headroom, as it is just so limiting.

CS boats were built by a company called Canadian Sailcraft which I believe changed their corporate name to just CS at some point. There is also a CS 33 and 30 that might provide 6"2", but I have no experience being in those boats.

There is a headroom discussion on another site too you might want to check out.

Canadian-Built Bluewater Boats ? Headroom ? - Cruisers & Sailing Forums

Regards,

hboy
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