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My name is Kyle and am new to sailing. I signed up for sailing lessons from an ASA school in the Fort Worth, TX area. I am considering purchasing my own boat instead of relying on renting a boat once I have finished the lessons. I have ordered a few books through Amazon about selecting the proper boat, but greatly welcome any suggestions. I will be sailing on a large local lake, spending some weekends aboard maybe in the spring and fall, and will be cruising as I am not interested in learning to race at this point.
Smaller is cheaper and you will learn more from a small boat about sailing.
A Catalina 25' is pretty small but big enough to miss some of the nuances that the wind and waves actually offer.
I learned to sail on Sunfish nearly 40 years ago. Others like to learn on bigger platforms.
Smaller is cheaper and you will learn more from a small boat about sailing.
A Catalina 25' is pretty small but big enough to miss some of the nuances that the wind and waves actually offer.
I learned to sail on Sunfish nearly 40 years ago. Others like to learn on bigger platforms.
Nice-looking boat and no doubt you could learn to sail on her.
But I too am a believer in 'smaller is better' in boats to learn on. The C25 photos show wheel steering. I think you'd to better starting with tiller steering, the feel is more direct and you never have to guess what your rudder angle is. And the smaller boats have less intertia, are more sensitive to weight placement, and are in general less forgiving while giving you more immediate feedback. This is actually good for climbing the learning curve.
here's an idea, if you have the budget. Do both! buy the 25 and a smaller boat (Laser? Coronado 15?) then you could get the advantages of learning on two different boat designs. Just a thought. Easy for me when I'm spending your money.
There's nothing wrong with buying the C25. To help you learn to sail her better, just bum some riding time on a small, fast dinghy or sign up for a dinghy sailing instruction course. There's no need to buy several iterations of boats. It's expensive and not very practical.
There are many small boats to practice on- Lasers, Flying Scots, Hobies.
In a stiffer breeze, the C25 begins to sail a lot like a big dinghy, requiring a constant hand on the tiller and the mainsheet, to play the puffs and avoid being overpowered and dumped on your ear.
I had a Coronado 25 that was like this. It was a good learning platform, and definitely cheaper to operate and maintain than my current 30 footer.
Kyle,
Welcome to Sailnet! I'm a recent owner of a 1984 Catalina 25. They are fun boats, and are great "first boats", but I'd suggest learning to sail on something else first. As others have suggested, I'd go with something smaller. I learned to sail on a 14' American, and they are fun boats. I am hearing impaired and wear hearing aids, so capsizing is a concern for me (electronics and water don't really mix that well). I always felt safe in the American, even when we pushed it a bit. I haven't actually played in a Laser, Hobie, etc., but I'd bet they are fun, too. The big thing(s) with the smaller boats is that you get a better feel for how to sail, and fixing any mistakes is typically a lot less expensive than in bigger boats. For me, the most significant thing about the move to the 25 (which I've sailed all of 5 times now) is the inertial difference - I'm moving an almost 5000 lb object in a (somewhat) frictionless environment without any brakes. It was much easier to learn on a 350lb boat.
Another suggestion, which is probably contrary to what others here will give, is to not pay much for the first boat. If you enjoy sailing, you may find that you want to move up to the C25 (or larger) fairly quickly. A limited cash outlay up front will make it easier to sell the first boat (or justify keeping it when you buy the bigger one).
Thank you for your advice I think that is my main concern with getting something small is capsizing easily. I will take a look at the American and similar.
And thanks for the welcome! On a side note, does anyone on the forums sail in north texas?
If you are looking for stable over speedy, also keep an eye out for Diller Schwill (also called Schwill, or DS). Com-Pac, or Chryslers. Others may suggest otherwise, but even a Venture 17 (built by MacGregor) wouldn't be a bad starter/learning boat.
Yes, I am looking for a stable boat to learn on for now. Thank you for your recommendations. I am not familiar with those boats, but will research them and see whats available in my area. Thanks again
I have a family of four, including a 3 year old and a 5 year old. Stability and a place for my kids to hide from the sun/rain were my priorities. I'm still a novice, but you're welcome to ask any questions.
Welcome to Sailnet. As you noticed you'll get lots of advice and opinions. Without a doubt you'll learn the finessing required to sail well in a small boat. With that said, MANY people have started on a 25 which is a pefect size for large inland lakes. I don't see any issues with cutting your teeth on the boat you listed. Looks nice!
Not sure what you decided to do. If you DO decide to go with the C250, or another 25' Catalina, be sure to come over to Catalina - Capri - 25s International Association. There is some GREAT information over there!
Look at her lines. It's all about the lines. If they inspire beauty then you know you can come back to her day after day and she'll put a smile on your face everytime.
Are you looking to be an expert sailor, capable of handling all the comes against you, in tune with every flutter of dacron or quiver of line? Or, do you want to sail. Buy the 25 if that's what will get you on the water. You may become a world-class sailor on her decks, or you may become competent over time. Who know, you may hate it! (I don't think so) But, if getting a small, tippy, limited dinghy will chase you away from the life, don't bother. Buy the C25 with salon to sleep in, an icebox to cool the brew and a dingy to explore with. It's a great way to live life. There's nothing like sipping coffee, sitting on the transom listening the the gulls and the slap against the hull. Or sharing a little "Merlot" time with that certain someone. Yeah, get the 25.
Be like me and decide your first boat will be a 27 foot sea worthy classic that you will use to learn on in your very first excursions...I was thinking like you at first but then thought, spending similar kind of money, I can just get a something a step bigger that can handle heavier winds/waters and is a good size for me, the wife, and some guests and I won't get the urge to go bigger after my first season...
At least that's what I wanted out of a boat...
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