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03-29-2017 11:00 PM
chef2sail
Re: Tell me about the Delaware Bay

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Originally Posted by JonTeaya Tompkins View Post
It's been a long time since this thread was written, but I'm single handing from Solomons, MD to Northport, NY this July and I'm looking for advise. I have a hunter 460 with a 5'6" draft and 63' mast... 12 hour days are a max. How far out or close can I come around Cape May? I see lanes on my charts that look out of the way. I'm thinking... Solomons to C&D day 1, C&D to an anchorage close to Cape May? Day 2, jump out at Cape May to AC day 3, AC to sandy Hook day 4, Sandy Hook to Northport, NY day 5. Dost that seam about right?
We've done this same trip many times

From Solomon's to Worton Creek - 70 mikes
Worton to Cape Henlopen you must used the current assist- 75-80 miles
Cape Henlopen to Atlantic City - 55 miles , consider Barnegat Inlet....82 Miles but I could help you with
This difficult inlet needs some discussion but we do it every year. Makes the Sandy point 45 miles. Otherwise Atlantic City to Sandy point is 85 miles.

As a side note these are long days singlehanded. There are ways to break this up into shorter less demanding legs.
Worton and the Delaware timing is very dependent on current or you will sling against potentially three knots

We leave from Annapolis to go to Seymors at NorthPoint

1 day to Reedy Island ( through the canal and south on the Delaware side 5 miles)
1 day to Cape May. We go through the Canal but you at 63 ft must go around so Lwes is a good alternative or
You waste time doubling back into Cape May. If you choose Cape May and no weather you can cut close to NJ
Inside the Prissy Wick Shoals. If not you can travel right outside thm.
We do Barnegat next....scenic anchorage. Makes Sandy Hook an easier get.the next day. We have done Atlantic City
But makes a long day to Atlantic Highlands
Ride the incoming tide into NY Bay from the Atlantic and up the East River and the current will assist you greatly.
Fight it you will go no where fast. You can get Northport easily and be at Seymour's in one day.

This is 4 days for us, but you are pushing and you absolutely need to play the currents. Since you are 45 miles south of us add one day to make it 5. There are two of us and it still is a long days.

I would give yourself 7 in case weather does not cooperate. The Jersey Coast only has 4 doable inlets to bail into
Cape May, Atlanrtic City, Manesquan and Barnegat if the conditions are not E or NE.

Contact me for good anchorages and information if you want
03-29-2017 10:33 PM
JonTeaya Tompkins
Re: Tell me about the Delaware Bay

It's been a long time since this thread was written, but I'm single handing from Solomons, MD to Northport, NY this July and I'm looking for advise. I have a hunter 460 with a 5'6" draft and 63' mast... 12 hour days are a max. How far out or close can I come around Cape May? I see lanes on my charts that look out of the way. I'm thinking... Solomons to C&D day 1, C&D to an anchorage close to Cape May? Day 2, jump out at Cape May to AC day 3, AC to sandy Hook day 4, Sandy Hook to Northport, NY day 5. Dost that seam about right?
03-10-2012 07:36 PM
Ulladh
Re: Tell me about the Delaware Bay

If the intent is passage through Delaware Bay as quickly as possible then it will either be unpleasant or boring,
While I would not recommend the bay as a destination for most sailors the wide waters mostly exceeding 20ft depth but some very sailable waters at about 9ft, and steady winds can be a delightful place to set your sails and stay on a single tack for half a day.

Fortesque was schedule for dredging by NJ last year, but I don't think it happened. The State Marina at Fortesque reports 9ft water, but the approach to Fortesque from the bay is a bit to shallow for my comfort, I swear I bounced of the bottom in a two foot swell with 4ft draft a few times last time I was there.

I will try it again this summer, and should be OK two hours before and after low tide.

Update;
Fortesque bulkhead was repaired, but dredging is still at the planning stage.
03-10-2012 12:48 AM
wbuckl
Re: Tell me about the Delaware Bay

Have sailed the bay a dozen times in each direction with crew and single-handed, generally found the Delaware bay less than pleasant and generally was happy to put in to Cape May or slip into the canal. Tried it at night (before GPS and chartplotters and still light on experience and it was down-right frightening, especially at night when thick fog rolled in. We headed for thin water (less than ten feet and anchored) and watched as the lights from tugs put a glow into the fog. The few marinas are for fishing boats, (Fortesque I think) we got in with our 6' draft to get fuel but almost didn't make it out due to a falling tide.

With an experienced crew it isn't a problem, it helps to have Radar and a good chartplotter at the helm. It doesn't hurt to have two hands on deck at night to help track Navigational lights and shipping. Once you've done it successfully in adverse conditions it will boost your confidence.
11-17-2011 09:14 AM
jameswilson29
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Originally Posted by pdqaltair View Post
Scaring people on forums is grand sport...
You are taking all the fun out of this.
11-17-2011 07:12 AM
Ajax_MD Dave,

That's really helpful. As PDQ says, trying to stick to a schedule exposes you to more problems. I've read a lot of chatter lately about people who have put themselves in a bad position by letting the schedule make decisions for them.

My job lets me accrue over two and a half months of vacation, and I'm pretty certain that I could actually use it if I provided enough notice and planning.

I'd like to visit Maine someday, and I was asking about the De Bay for planning purposes.
11-16-2011 10:57 PM
chef2sail Delaware Bay weather- Prevailing winds

Here is the site I use

Delaware Bay and C & D Canal

Weather
Strong north westerlies are prevalent from November through March; gales are encountered about 1 to 3
percent of the time.It has been reported that with sustained north westerlies over an extended period of time, lower than predicted low tides may occur in Delaware Bay and River and its tributaries.Seas build to 10 feet (3 m)or more about 1 percent of the time from November through March.High seas are most likely with northwest or southeast winds. Average seas run 3 feet (0.9 m) from October through March.During the summer, prevailing southerlies are often reinforced by the sea breeze and afternoon wind speeds may reach 15 to 25 knots strong easterly or southeasterly winds

Dave
11-16-2011 10:45 PM
RichH Dont get me wrong, The Del Bay is quite nice for sailing up/down.

One has to realize that the predominant winds for the upper and mid bay are SW (beam reaching stuff) and you usually get an onshore sea breeze near the 'points'.
Yes, its unspoiled and uninhabited for most of the bay ... and thats the 'nice' part. Only near the town of Cape May will you receive the obligatory 'severely waked' by the numerous sport fishing boats frenetically traversing the inlets, otherwise the Del. Bay is 'vacant' ... and thats a good thing if you're sailing.

If you catch the tides/current correctly you'll 'scoot', If you dont catch the tides/currents correctly you not enjoy as much. Only on a NW or SE 'blow' does it get 'especially' rough ... and these are not 'predominant' winds.
11-16-2011 08:43 PM
pdqaltair
Tales of daring do are so much grander when we exagerate!

Scaring people on forums is grand sport.

As I stated before, I believe most transits of the Delaware are done under power in light winds and are merely dull. That said, any sort of distance cruising on a schedule exposes you to more potential for sailing in challenging conditions than an over night trip on the Chesapeake. That's just the way it is. You need to either stay near home or keep a flexible schedule.

The comment on not running the engine is wise. Also, NEVER use the grill near fly or mosquito infested shorelines; it's just like ringing the dinner bell.
11-16-2011 01:53 PM
PalmettoSailor Fortunately my wife doesn't read these boards, so there is still a chance of talking her into a trip up north and/or a Delmarva Circumnav.
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