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12-18-2011 10:35 PM
FarCry [QUOTE=dbrimm;807720]
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Originally Posted by neverknow View Post

Sorry for the confusion neverknow. The crime is much worse than in the mainland USA. Gangs are rampant and the police inept, corrupt and not always particularly motivated to arrest criminals who are also frequently family members or friends.. it's a small island community.

That being said you can reduce your exposure by avoiding some certain areas, by avoiding bad situations (ie staying out drinking till 4am then trying to score a bag of weed on your way home = bad idea), using some common sense and being alert. This won't make you immune but will make it less likely that you become a victim. You can't rely on just staying out of 'bad areas' because the crime doesn't stay in the projects it bleeds all over the islands and is everywhere.

Don't get me wrong there are many things to love about the islands and you almost certainly will have a great time should you visit but just trying to help people be as safe as possible and make informed decisions.
Dbrimm nailed it!!! Well said.
12-18-2011 10:31 PM
FarCry
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Originally Posted by Ninefingers View Post
My eyes pooped out when I read that part. That's about half the time it takes around here. I'm moving!
No free health care like Canada...
12-17-2011 01:39 PM
dbrimm [QUOTE=neverknow;807602]
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Originally Posted by dbrimm View Post

The crime and corruption while not as bad as some down-island places (Trinidad, Venezuela?) is at a level that it really can't be compared to any stateside city. I make this comparison after moving to St Thomas from previous stints in East LA and Oakland, keep your eyes open and your wits about you in the USVI and you'll probably be alright.


I'm not sure I understand your comments about crime. Do you think it's worse than in the USA? Is it just like anywhere you go, just stay out of the "BAD" areas and things are much safer?
Sorry for the confusion neverknow. The crime is much worse than in the mainland USA. Gangs are rampant and the police inept, corrupt and not always particularly motivated to arrest criminals who are also frequently family members or friends.. it's a small island community.

That being said you can reduce your exposure by avoiding some certain areas, by avoiding bad situations (ie staying out drinking till 4am then trying to score a bag of weed on your way home = bad idea), using some common sense and being alert. This won't make you immune but will make it less likely that you become a victim. You can't rely on just staying out of 'bad areas' because the crime doesn't stay in the projects it bleeds all over the islands and is everywhere.

Don't get me wrong there are many things to love about the islands and you almost certainly will have a great time should you visit but just trying to help people be as safe as possible and make informed decisions.
12-17-2011 02:56 AM
neverknow [QUOTE=dbrimm;806163]

The crime and corruption while not as bad as some down-island places (Trinidad, Venezuela?) is at a level that it really can't be compared to any stateside city. I make this comparison after moving to St Thomas from previous stints in East LA and Oakland, keep your eyes open and your wits about you in the USVI and you'll probably be alright.


I'm not sure I understand your comments about crime. Do you think it's worse than in the USA? Is it just like anywhere you go, just stay out of the "BAD" areas and things are much safer?
12-17-2011 01:20 AM
TakeFive
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Glad you found the boat. I based my assumption on the fact that you told Farcry it was a St John boat. Stormy Petral and her sister ship are St Thomas based and pick up in St John. Nice boat and a well run trip.

Jay
FYI, I called Al Day today (charter manager of Stormy Petrel), and he said they're not doing any group cruises during the holiday week. It's private charters only, but Stormy is a little too big and pricey for my little family of 5. Al recommended doing a private charter of a 26' Prowler Cat from See and Ski, so I've got that set up. Hopefully the seas will be calm enough to make it all the way up to Virgin Gorda in the smaller boat.

Since Al seemed like a real straight shooter, I asked him for a recommendation for a one-day sailboat charter. He said he lives on a Pearson 424, and his son does charters on it (dba Simplicity Charters, apparently while Dad is at work during the day). So I set that up as well.

My 22 year old son is certified scuba diver, and Al's son recommended Low Key Watersports for scuba trips. My son is setting that up on his dime.

Please PM me if any of you USVI locals know of any reason not to do business with these companies.
12-16-2011 07:57 AM
captainjay
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Originally Posted by RhythmDoctor View Post
No, it's not a lobster boat. But thanks for trying - I do appreciate your effort.

I finally managed to track it down. The boat is Stormy Petrel, run by The Charter Boat Center. I don't know the name of the guy who drove the boat before, but I suspect they'll know who I'm talking about when I call them tomorrow. Here's what I mean by "big, high bow":

Glad you found the boat. I based my assumption on the fact that you told Farcry it was a St John boat. Stormy Petral and her sister ship are St Thomas based and pick up in St John. Nice boat and a well run trip.

Jay
12-15-2011 11:28 PM
Ninefingers
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Originally Posted by FarCry View Post
I spent a total of 21 hours over the course of two weeks just trying to get a local dirvers license. I've spent as much as 4 hours standing in line to renew vehicle registration. Patience is required...
My eyes pooped out when I read that part. That's about half the time it takes around here. I'm moving!
12-15-2011 10:08 PM
TakeFive
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Originally Posted by captainjay View Post
Based on the description that you gave Farcry, I would bet the boat you are looking for is Born To Rumb. Based out of St John a New England lobster style boat inspected for 12 people. Google them or look on facebook. You will likely remember the boat.
Jay
No, it's not a lobster boat. But thanks for trying - I do appreciate your effort.

I finally managed to track it down. The boat is Stormy Petrel, run by The Charter Boat Center. I don't know the name of the guy who drove the boat before, but I suspect they'll know who I'm talking about when I call them tomorrow. Here's what I mean by "big, high bow":

12-15-2011 06:54 PM
Ulladh Lots of great information.

I need to take a two week land based vacation and check it out. I am already convinced that the sailing would be well worth it.

But just as I dream of warm waters, another contract comes through and I have work for another year or two.

The same thing happens when I wax the skis; the snow stops and temperatures rise.

So next year will be sailing the Delaware Bay and out beyond the bay entrance to...
12-15-2011 08:03 AM
captainjay
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Originally Posted by RhythmDoctor View Post
For those of you in USVI, I have a question for you.

Last time we were down there we took a powerboat cruise from Cruz Bay to the Baths with a lunch stop at Cooper Island and Snorkeling in the caves at Norman Island on the way back. Our captain was outstanding, and I would like to go with the same company/captain again when we return there in a few weeks. Unfortunately, I don't remember who it was. All I remember is that the captain's "day gig" was at UVI teaching PE, and he lived on St. Thomas. He didn't own his own boat - he just worked for other charter owners who called him to run their boats for him. And although he was born and raised on the US mainland, he had lived in St. Thomas for over a decade.

I'm hoping that it's a small enough community that you guys might be able to let me know who the guy is, and what companies he captains for.

Any help would be appreciated.

Based on the description that you gave Farcry, I would bet the boat you are looking for is Born To Rumb. Based out of St John a New England lobster style boat inspected for 12 people. Google them or look on facebook. You will likely remember the boat.
Jay
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