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|12-18-2011 11:27 PM|
|aeventyr60||One of our training cruises was out the Juan de Fuca Stratis and up to Barclay Sound. Fantastic trip, a bit rough on the way out but a big reward in cruising Barclay Sound. The next year we circumnavigated Vancouver Island and then headed off shore to San Francisco. Small steps on the way to Asia 12 years later. Go for it!|
|12-18-2011 11:12 PM|
Originally Posted by erps View Post
Don't show this video to your wife before you watch it yourself
This video is the follow up report in Neah Bay.
|12-15-2011 04:36 PM|
As a high school teacher I had the luxury of long summer vacations if i was not doing summer school of some sort. Experience came with going longer distances. I remember my first cruise in our Hughes 22. Went from Whitby to the Thousand Islands in Lake Ontario. Got to Belleville and found out that you needed a few dock lines that were longer than 15', so a lot of it is just increasing the challenge step by step.
For cruisers on Lake Ontario, after you have done the standard trips (across the lake 20 to 50 miles depending on route, going to the Thousand Islands); the next step is to leave the lake and head, typically, toward the North Channel in Georgian Bay - this was tougher because you had to deal with the Welland Canal, long trips on Erie and Huron, and river currents against you between Erie and Huron. The next step was to go into the ocean. We went to a Nonsuch regatta on Martha's Vineyard (Erie Canal with mast down, Hell's Gate tides!!). Next was offshore, in our club there was a bit of a tradition of going to Bermuda for a summer trip (2 weeks to Bermuda, 2 weeks in Bermuda and 2 weeks back). At each stage there was a new challenge and more things to learn. Most people on Lake Ontario never leave it and are happy to do the same things each summer, but other options - in logical steps exist if you want them. I guess I was always building experience but very importantly you are building confidence to tackle something new.
Now we are aiming to go from Australia around South Africa and there are new challenges and experiences including longer passages in the Indian and Atlantic Oceans and the nasty weather from SW Indian Ocean around the Cape of Good Hope. I feel OK about it because I have met other challenges in the past that seemed just as big a step as these ones.
|12-15-2011 04:18 PM|
Hell's Gate is not that bad
Someone mentioned the name making it worst and I imagine this is part of it. One of the places we may stop next year is 'Hellville" in Mozambique. Named after a M. Hell and apparently not that bad.
More of a question than a comment - wasn't a major obstruction in Hell's Gate dynamited a number of years ago so that it is not nearly as nasty?
|12-15-2011 02:44 PM|
I've done the trip at least a dozens times over the years sport fishing. Problem I have with this is if I got to the canyon in a sailboat, I'd want to keep right on going
|12-15-2011 02:04 PM|
|Capt Len||Even more interesting is when the current suddenly increases big time. Until the boat catches up to the change, the rudder can actually works as in reverse.This will usually happen in a narrow channel between the rocks .ie ,Hidden basin,Roaring Hole, Surge N. Probably lots of other spots I haven"t yawed through yet. Hell with the waves, Rock are bad.|
|12-15-2011 09:56 AM|
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
|12-15-2011 09:46 AM|
|12-15-2011 01:38 AM|
Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
This link is a larger image- both show my route through.
I have gone with the current in a couple of situations that I know well.
|12-14-2011 10:43 PM|
What is in a name?
Mostly the name is intimidating. That section of the East River is what passes for a high current area in this region with currents up to 5 knots in confined channels with commercial traffic. The current is not nearly as high as some of your rapids/narrows have. Cape Cod Canal has stronger currents then the East River and up near the Bay of Fundy the currents also have a wild reputation.
If you look up the derivation of the name Hell Gate from the original Dutch name it does not mean anything like the English adopted moniker. It is, however the spot with the highest currents in the narrowest area (2-300 yeards wide) with the most commercial traffic within about a 100 mile radius. It is also a hell of a ride shooting down past Manhattan at nearly 10 knots (boat speed + current) while cars sit in traffic on the FDR drive.
I wonder if there is a Guiness Book of Records entry for the estuary with the highest regular tidal current flow? Fundy may hold the record for the greatest tidal range (~40') but are the current speeds equally large?
The Bene505 boat could probably go against the currents in the East River and still make it with that large diesel engine he has. It would just take a lot longer to transit.
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
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