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01-15-2012 03:56 PM
drakeParagon
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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post

Also, you have a very good sense for true documentary-style film making, capturing the experience as opposed just chronicling the events. Keep that up. That's exactly what was so compelling about your Nightmare series - it's not just the decision/results, it's the decision process that you show that's so reveting. Even the boredom/cooking/sleeping/messiness down below was all interesting because THAT'S as much a part of the experience as storms and sunsets.

In this regard, there's another great guy around here named Dylan Winter. He is/was a cinematographer for the BBC and has a GREAT ongoing series called "Keep Turning Left":

Keepturningleft.co.uk around Britain in a 19 foot boat - YouTube

His film making is brilliant as well. You should find his stuff on YouTube and talk craft with him. His shooting, editing, and story-telling are all top notch...as is his use of narration, etc.

Keep it coming!
Thanks so much for the feedback and recommendations on making better sailing videos! DYLAN WINTER's videos are AWESOME! I've subscribed and am really looking forward to watching them all. My girlfriend Monique and I are planning to sail from North Carolina to Newfoundland and on to the UK... So Dylan's videos are just amazing for us to watch. Priceless... It would be fantastic to have a conversation with Dylan about making sailing videos someday.. and even maybe in person when we get there? Thanks!
01-14-2012 03:58 PM
AKA44 Wow! I'm most happy to fall-in right behind smackdaddy as he echos my feelings perfectly. Great videos. Great technique. I've subscribed and look forward to more as I pass-through waypoints leading me to the West Palm area by April to purchase, outfit, *, *, *, cruise. The water-based portion of my adventure is just beginning and this post is another great example of why Sailnet has become a prime asset for me. Cheers!
01-14-2012 02:42 PM
smackdaddy Apart from your already-discussed willingness to honestly show both the good and the bad - which is very rare - you also take the time to point out details (like the tour of the deck), talk about the upsides and downsides of each thing, and do it in language that is easy for people to understand. For example, many experienced sailors wouldn't take the time to point out and explain the throttle and the shifter, or the issues with the CP cables, or the anchor swivel. You do - and it's great. And very, very few experienced sailors would walk through mistakes they made...but this is all so critical to the rest of us trying to learn.

You make it easy for people to relate to you...i.e. - not too "expert", but still way more experienced than most of us. It's clear that you just love sailing - like the rest of us - and want to share it with everyone.

Also, you have a very good sense for true documentary-style film making, capturing the experience as opposed just chronicling the events. Keep that up. That's exactly what was so compelling about your Nightmare series - it's not just the decision/results, it's the decision process that you show that's so reveting. Even the boredom/cooking/sleeping/messiness down below was all interesting because THAT'S as much a part of the experience as storms and sunsets.

In this regard, there's another great guy around here named Dylan Winter. He is/was a cinematographer for the BBC and has a GREAT ongoing series called "Keep Turning Left":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpsYp...f=results_main

His film making is brilliant as well. You should find his stuff on YouTube and talk craft with him. His shooting, editing, and story-telling are all top notch...as is his use of narration, etc.

Keep it coming!
01-14-2012 01:03 PM
jackdale I have seen connections similar to this one which will not allow water to accumulate.



Looks good. Not sure about the performance.
01-14-2012 09:10 AM
drakeParagon
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Originally Posted by chrisncate View Post
Great vid, do my boat next!

(I have the Tides marine track system too!)

Seriously though, I would like to ask you: Do you like smaller boats/do you have any offshore experience in the 28 to 32 foot range? If so, I'd love to hear any thoughts or insights.

That corrosion you noted on the Stay Lock type fitting on the backstay (8:40 in the vid), was their any visual evidence of anyone trying to fill it/cover it with anything to prevent that crevice corrosion? I have been wondering about stuffing a blob of butyl tape over mine, the ones looking "up" (not installed yet)..
Hi chrisncate, Thank you! I've got the camera ready, where's your boat?

I love all sailboats, all sizes, all types... I started living aboard in 1994 on a old 30' Hunter in Boston harbor... In 1998 moved to a Westsail 32, and in 2002 I pushed off to spend 6 years cruising the US East coast, Bahamas, Caribbean, Bermuda, Venezuela... In 2009 moved to my Westsail 42 'Paragon' and still trying to get out of the Atlantic...

I'm not sure what the best thing is for that SSB connection to the backstay.. I've seen the wire clamped on with no goop of any kind.. and I've seen others with tons of goop all over... I think in either case corrosion eventually becomes an issue...Maybe self amalgamating tape would work best? I'm not sure... Anyone?
01-14-2012 08:54 AM
drakeParagon
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Originally Posted by Ilenart View Post
Great video, thanks for posting it.

Just wondering what your overall opinion of the Vagabond 42, particularly performance and suitability as a long term cruiser.

For quite a while a contemplated purchasing a Vagabond 42 however I decided against it, primarily as I was concerned about performance due to the ketch rig and heavy displacement, plus concerns on trying to singlehand the yacht. However they certainly appear to be pretty livable boats.

Ilenart
Hi Ilenart,

Well.... I'm afraid I'll just have to admit to being really biased as I love the Westsail 42 the most... Also my entire experience with the Vagabond 42 was limited to just that voyage (arriving on the day before we pushed off) so I'm not really familiar with her... My strongest impression was that she might need a lot more wind to sail effectively than other boats of similar length and displacement... and might also require running the engine more than those boats in lighter winds... I bet she's more comfortable to sail in heavier air than most boats and would heave to very nicely in storm conditions.

Maybe someday Fellowship and my heavier Westsail 42 'Paragon' will rendezvous and do some convoy sailing.. Would be interesting..

I'm looking forward to giving you an in depth tour of Vagabond 42 Fellowship's cabin when I publish that video next Thursday!

Happy Sailing, Drake
01-14-2012 08:26 AM
drakeParagon
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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post

Deck tour video

Love your enthusiasm.

You might do a bit of ****** / sequence.

I liked how you pointed out the tether points in the cockpit. Were the jacklines removed?

Question - did the reef points terminate at the leech cringle or did they pass through the cringle and tie off at the boom?
Hi Jackdale, Thanks!

We had jacklines going from the bow cleats to the stern cleats. I wish I had started filming the deck tour before we stowed them, or had mentioned them in the video. We didn't have any jacklines going to that tether point in the cockpit, but rather it was just for the helmsman to clip into.

I've never seen that kind of reefing set up before... I couldn't find any additional cleats or blocks on the boom for the reefing lines and though it seemed a little strange I ended up terminating them at the leech cringes with bowlines.

On this voyage, all aboard were very new to the boat and we were shaking down and figuring out her systems throughout the whole voyage as I'll show in upcoming episodes...

Thanks for watching and I really appreciate the feedback!
01-14-2012 03:16 AM
Ilenart Great video, thanks for posting it.

Just wondering what your overall opinion of the Vagabond 42, particularly performance and suitability as a long term cruiser.

For quite a while a contemplated purchasing a Vagabond 42 however I decided against it, primarily as I was concerned about performance due to the ketch rig and heavy displacement, plus concerns on trying to singlehand the yacht. However they certainly appear to be pretty livable boats.

Ilenart
01-14-2012 02:05 AM
chrisncate Great vid, do my boat next!

(I have the Tides marine track system too!)

Seriously though, I would like to ask you: Do you like smaller boats/do you have any offshore experience in the 28 to 32 foot range? If so, I'd love to hear any thoughts or insights.

That corrosion you noted on the Stay Lock type fitting on the backstay (8:40 in the vid), was their any visual evidence of anyone trying to fill it/cover it with anything to prevent that crevice corrosion? I have been wondering about stuffing a blob of butyl tape over mine, the ones looking "up" (not installed yet)..
01-14-2012 01:09 AM
jackdale Deck tour video

Love your enthusiasm.

You might do a bit of ****** / sequence.

I liked how you pointed out the tether points in the cockpit. Were the jacklines removed?

Question - did the reef points terminate at the leech cringle or did they pass through the cringle and tie off at the boom?
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