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12-10-2012 02:30 PM
Re: Morgan 33 Keel Sloop '69

Hi Caleb,
Thanks for the input and suggestion. NOw lets see if I can figure out how to start a new thread!
12-10-2012 01:59 PM
Re: Morgan 33 Keel Sloop '69

Welcome to Sailnut! It might be better if you posted your question in a new thread. Swann's Island = Maine paradise.
Nothing against the Morgan but I believe that the Southern Cross has a pretty good reputation.

M 33' folks.
You mentioned the 'trim tab' on the M 33' hull. I am curious about that. From the diagram: MORGAN 33 sailboat specifications and details on
the boat sports a spade rudder but it looks like it has a small panel at the trailing edge of the keel that might be adjustable. Is this the 'trim tab'?
12-10-2012 09:51 AM
Re: Morgan 33 Keel Sloop '69

Hi! I have a a '69 Morgan 33 (not OI) and it is up in the Sierra (CA), waiting for me to dedicate a fair amount of time to redoing its interior. There is lots of really nice stuff on it (hardware). But I was wondering how seaworthy she might be? I also have a Southern Cross 28 cutter that seems quite sturdy, and I want to put my efforts into the better blue water boat. Do you have any thoughts about the suitability of the M33 for blue water long-distance sailing? Thanks so much - Anders
11-03-2012 10:31 PM
Re: Morgan 33 Keel Sloop '69

Glad ti find the keel is encapsulated,a plus for an older boat in my opinion, thanks. Rich
11-02-2012 09:46 AM
Re: Morgan 33 Keel Sloop '69

Not much action over here.... that is for sure! Averaging 1 reply per year in my case anyway! Well I guess that gives me plenty of time to keep sailing the boat and gathering info for the occasional question. Yes, I had researched and discovered that same stuff about the boat being designed right before the rule changes, this seems to be the reason not a lot were built. Encapsulated lead hull, yes. My first thoughts to somebody buying the boat? Definitely solid built, thick fiberglass, no soft deck issues. A former owner had an extra post mounted in the head under the mast for support, I believe the cabin top must have been sagging under the mast, not a problem for me now but I would check on any boat that old I suppose for that problem. The boat is narrow and heals early and a lot. Also gets weather helm early as the wind builds - both of these factors demand reefing the sails pretty early (although I think some better sails and some mast rake would probably help too). These sailing characteristics are not a problem with the boat I don't think, but you need to be prepared for them. Some models also have an extra trim tab on the keel which I have been told didn't do a whole lot for performance, mine was glassed in so I don't have personal knowledge of that. My SoCal PHRF rating is a 168 so that would give you an idea of the speed of the boat, I don't have good sails for racing but I average 5-6 knts upwind and if it is blowing good can get downwind in the 6-8knt range. Boat always feels solid in rough seas, very good at pointing to weather, always feel confident in a blow. Anything else just ask!
Regards from the Salty Goat - Oxnard, CA
11-01-2012 07:32 PM
Re: Morgan 33 Keel Sloop '69

This forum doesn't get much traffic. Most of the discussion happens over in the general forum even discussions regarding specific boat models and characteristics. You might try poking around over there.
10-31-2012 05:14 PM
Re: Morgan 33 Keel Sloop '69

Probably because the 33 CCA was only produced for a few years before the IOR rules overtook her. So there were not that many hulls built and there are not that many folks around with experience with them. I sailed one once but not really long enough to develop a real opinion. Keel is molded in encapsulated lead. Interesting feature on the one that I sailed was the fresh water tank was in the aft part of the keel.
10-30-2012 12:56 PM
Re: Morgan 33 Keel Sloop '69

Hey Yountman,I'm starved for onfo on the m33 keelboat also,looking at one on the cheap and want to know how it sails in all conditions,is the keel encapsulated or bolt on? General opion on build quality etc. Thanks, Rich
02-11-2012 10:26 PM
Yountman Well gee whiz everybody, am I doing something wrong? everytime I post on here, get a response, or what ever I don't seem to get another response for months! I am just trying to be friendly, but come on, just tell me if I come off sounding like a ***** or something and nobody wants to answer back to me! Am I breaking some secret code of conduct or what?
01-18-2012 03:43 PM
Yountman Well, it's been a full year now since I posted my 1st request for info! So I have now sailed the boat for a while and could be an info giver instead of the receiver at this point, although I wish I could still have some give and take with WANSTAR, what happened there?! I do not have an owners manual, although I do have the original drawings for the boat and some old pamphlets describing the entire Morgan line-up of the day. As far as speed goes, I can tell you that the southern california PHRF has given me a handicap of 168 - but I have a small foresail that I have yet to replace with a %155 genoa that would be appropriate for racing around here so I couldn't say if I can sail it that fast yet or not. But it does like to sail in a breeze - I made one run back from cruising our local islands in about 25 knots of wind and was able to average close to 8 knts on the main and jib - until I get some more sail area up front hard to say how well it goes in the light stuff for racing, but it still sails well in any breeze and is a nice ride all around and I have been very happy with it, just day sailing as well as cruising locally. one question I now have is about the trim tab that is in the keel, mine was glassed in but now that I have more experience sailing the boat I am wondering what advantage I could have gotten under sail with that unusual feature...
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