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01-26-2012 02:02 PM
DRFerron
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Is there a way, if I was to buy a decent outboard motor, that I could use it on both the dinghy AND the large boat?
An outboard for a sailboat would ideally have a long shaft, too long for use on a dinghy. If you try to use a short shaft outboard on most sailboats, your prop will be out of the water more than in, especially in chop. Our first boat had a short shaft and after replacing it with a long shaft I wondered how we put up with the other for so long.
01-25-2012 08:40 PM
chuck53 A couple of things, when you get into larger boats, most of them will come with inboards, which is the way to go. You will still see a few with the old Atomic 4 gas engine, but most will be diesel. Even if you find a boat with an outboard, you will soon find switching the motor from one boat to another will be a major PIA. We have a close friend you used to have a 26' with an outboard. He hated it and is very glad to now have an inboard.

I'd rethink your feelings on insurance. Not a good idea to forgo that.
01-25-2012 07:44 PM
New2this I looked at a 28 foot today. It was MUCH bigger than the 21, I could definitely see myself living on it. The guy was not willing to come down enough on the price, but it gave me a better idea of the size aspect

And yes I do want to stay out on the water, so as far as a dinghy gos. What would be ideal? A zodiac that I can wench out of the water? Is there a way, if I was to buy a decent outboard motor, that I could use it on both the dinghy AND the large boat?

I will not forgo the survey, I dont know anything about the structural integrity of a boat, its not something I want to worry about on a stormy night at sea. I highly doubt I will get insurance however
01-25-2012 06:30 PM
chuck53 OK, a 30 footer will be doable on $5000, but most likely it's going to be pretty old and in rough shape. Take a look at some Catalina 27's. Even dropping down to a C-27, it's going to be hard to find anything halfway decent on $5000.
I think you will be pleasanty surprised as to how much room a C-27 has - Way, way more room than the 21 you looked at. Full standing room and a compleately enclosed head, probably with a shower. Enough room that you can have 2-3 people comfortably spend a few days with you.
Yes, take your time, look at a number of boats, take pictures and note the plusses and minuses of each.

As far as classes go, as mentioned, you will most likely need, at least, a boating safety class. After that, both the US Power - Sail Squadron and the Coast Guard Aux. offer seamanship classes and more advanced boating classes. Yes, a hand's on sailing class will be good, but it's going to take a big bite out of your budget..

When you do find a boat that looks like the one to buy, make sure you find a good, marine surveyor to do a full survey on the boat. A survey is going to run you anywhere from $15-25 per foot depending on the skill and experience of the surveyor. Part of the survey will have the boat hauled to check out the bottom of the boat. That's going to cost you another couple hundred dollars. If you think you can pass on the survey, don't. Surveyors often find problems that could cost big bucks to fix. Also, if you plan on insuring the boat, no insurance company will touch it without a survey report.

When you find a boat that looks interesting, don't hesitate to post it here and let other members give you their 5 cents opinion on them.
A few months ago, another newbie came on here looking for advice to buy a boat to liveaboard and do some traveling just like you. We exchanged a number of posts and emails and ended up, I actually found the boat that he ended up buying. The guy is happy as a clam.

You say you don't want to live at a marina, but instead, want to anchor or hang onto a moring ball. If you do that, have you looked into getting some kind of a dinghy to get to and from shore with?
01-25-2012 05:22 PM
New2this My budget is about 5000, give or take.

Chuck after reading your email, and looking at how small the 21 was inside, I think im gonna go for a 30'+

I was trying to get one within the week, so as to avoid paying another months rent where I am staying, but I can see I need to slow things down and make an informed decision. Im going to look into a sailing class as well.
01-25-2012 04:46 PM
hellosailor new2,
Look around for your local "power squadron" boating safety class. May not be until spring at this point, but in order to operate a motor vessel in Florida you will need a boating safety certificate, and that's about $45 for a Saturday course. It will be taught by local boaters (sailors, not just power boaters) and give you a good fast education--and an introduction to local folks who can probably take you out on the water and answer your questions.
Many states are requiring the same certification these days, and the one you get will be good for all of them.

As to boat size, engines...boy is that a wider topic. :-)
01-25-2012 04:29 PM
chuck53 New2this,
I sent you an email.
01-25-2012 03:43 PM
chuck53 Yes,
yachtworld.com
boattraderonline.com
sailboatlistings.com
continue to look on craigslist.

As I said earlier, I don't think you want anything less than 25-26' and closer to 30 would be better.

What is your budget? I'm guessing, not too big which means whatever you find is not going to be a open water boat. Coastal and protected waters only, which isn't bad as you get to live aboard and learn to sail.
01-25-2012 02:56 PM
Lflowers230 Try these:

27' Catalina sailboat

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/2798883723.html

http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/2803090596.html
01-25-2012 01:54 PM
New2this I have had some experience with high seas, always on powerboats granted, but I know enough not to mess with mother nature. I would never attempt something that was outside of my ability. I have been watching some videos on sailing, I think I understand the basic principles. Its sort of becomes intuitive once you get the hang of it?

looked at the Santana, was just too small, I could not even sit up inside it


im going to look at this next classic sailboat 28"


where is the best place to find a used boat? someoene mentioned yachtworld..

I will keep you guys posted, I am definitely doing this though, and soon
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