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04-20-2012 09:38 AM
jb1528
Re: Help us choose a boat, please

I just don't fill that tank. 70 in the keel tank is plenty. If I do need to cruise with that 30 gallons in the bow, I'll split the chain and put 50ft of it in the stern for the 2nd anchor, but I haven't done that yet.

My batteries are in the port cockpit lazzarette. The hot water tank in the starboard one balances that out fairly well.

Jim
04-19-2012 04:05 PM
MarkSF
Re: Help us choose a boat, please

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Originally Posted by jb1528 View Post
You may have found your boat by now, but if not, I can tell you that in my research, while the mariners look good, watch out for the wood cockpits. Many of the forums for mariner chronicle owners rebuilding all of that. They have a good reputation inspite of that though.

I bought a Bristol 32 last year that was in decent shape for my needs for about 22K. Puget sound sailing. She didn't have much for electronics and the head is a portapotty, but essentially sound. They are rare on the west coast for sure. Mine was ordered new in '75 by a Seattle owner who had her 25 years. The second owners had her 11. I'm just the third owner. They aren't the fastest, but I did hit 7.5 briefly on the speedo last year. The accomodations are a bit tight for a 32. We haven't gone with another couple overnight yet, but it is doable. Tons of storage for stuff and tankage for water. I can carry 100 gallons. 70 in the keel and 30 in a bow tank. Although with 100' of anchor chain too, that 30 gallons puts her out of trim badly.

Good luck if you are still shopping.

Jim
That's interesting as I have a trim problem on my Bristol 31.1, due to the fact that the 100ft of anchor chain was replaced with rope. Now, even with the bow tank full, the bow rides high.

Part of the problem is that the PO added two extra batteries in the stern. Actually now I think about it, batteries are quite an economical form of ballast. Have you thought of increasing the battery capacity?

The problem is that 100ft of chain costs about $1000.
04-19-2012 03:14 PM
jb1528
Re: Help us choose a boat, please

You may have found your boat by now, but if not, I can tell you that in my research, while the mariners look good, watch out for the wood cockpits. Many of the forums for mariner chronicle owners rebuilding all of that. They have a good reputation inspite of that though.

I bought a Bristol 32 last year that was in decent shape for my needs for about 22K. Puget sound sailing. She didn't have much for electronics and the head is a portapotty, but essentially sound. They are rare on the west coast for sure. Mine was ordered new in '75 by a Seattle owner who had her 25 years. The second owners had her 11. I'm just the third owner. They aren't the fastest, but I did hit 7.5 briefly on the speedo last year. The accomodations are a bit tight for a 32. We haven't gone with another couple overnight yet, but it is doable. Tons of storage for stuff and tankage for water. I can carry 100 gallons. 70 in the keel and 30 in a bow tank. Although with 100' of anchor chain too, that 30 gallons puts her out of trim badly.

Good luck if you are still shopping.

Jim
01-26-2012 02:52 PM
Controlled Jibe We just wrote an email to someone selling a Westsail 32, and while a little above our budget, maybe we could make it work. Then we enter the debate of slow, heavy, and lack of windward ability vs. light, fast and ability to point high. We are not the thrill seeking type, and therefore the speed factor only plays a role in the scenario where we need to race to a protected anchorage. Likewise for pointing, we don't need to get anywhere fast, unless it's off of a lee shore. ...I spent some time looking through a good Westsail 32 thread last night, and I'm sold on them, assuming we could get one for the right price (that was in decent condition). ...All other things aside, they're absolutely beautiful boats, which does count for something in our decision matrix.
01-26-2012 02:45 PM
Controlled Jibe Slip expense/availability and haulout issues might be the deal killer. Especially in the smaller marinas we'll be in and around in Mexico.
01-26-2012 02:38 PM
MarkSF They are generally unpopular due to perceptions about lack of structural integrity. I can't comment on the accuracy of those perceptions, except to say that I read "A Voyage for Madmen" and every trimaran entered in the 1968 Golden Globe broke up and sank. Suhaili kept going. What's the nearest thing to Suhaili you can buy for a reasonable price? A Westsail 32.
01-26-2012 02:38 PM
bljones Trimarans have largely fallen out of favour with the cruising world, in part because they are almost impossible to trailer, expensive to keep in a slip and need to be hauled with a crane since they are too wide for most marine lifts, and in part because they are expensive to build in fiberglass. Most of the old cruising designs that fit your budget are cold molded plywood- when built right and maintained they are a very good choice, but they never look as swoopy and shiny as a fiberglass boat. Current trimarans are aimed more at the performance market, and are very quick compaqred to a monohull of the same length. Hell, an old crusing tri is quicker than a monohull of the same length, but much slower than a performance tri, which is another reason why they fell out of favour with those looking for the speed a tri can offer.

SWMBO and I looked at a Piver Trimaran last year. 36 feet long, 19' beam, cutter rigged, with a 15 hp Honda O/B in each ama hull. Still very solid, she was abandoned in northern ontario a decade ago and ressurrected two years ago, sailed to the head of the st. clair river and abandoned again.. Even with all the abuse, her hulls were still watertight and none of the ports or chainplates leaked. The only reason we didn't bring her home for the $3500 in storage fees owing on her is that she is too big for our marina.

I came away impressed by old wood multihulls, which planted the seed to build one myself.
01-26-2012 02:28 PM
Controlled Jibe Not knowing anything about those models you sent, why is it that a trimaran would be inexpensive in comparison to a monohull. Construction methods? The market? other?
01-26-2012 02:24 PM
Controlled Jibe She definitely sails flat. Forget about the dog, that looks good to me!
01-26-2012 02:21 PM
bljones just for conversation sake:

1978 Norman Cross Trimaran Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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