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3 Days Ago 09:40 PM
SanderO
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

I recently upgraded my VHF to the Horizon GX2200... which includes AIS, DSC, GPS which is output to a C80. The AIS works fine... and target show on the C80. I didn't use a splitter... but when the mast was down last Spring I put a new VHF antenna (Vesper) and new RG213 coax. BIG difference!
3 Days Ago 07:12 PM
LeeV
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

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Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
Yep.

You can put the second antenna on the pushpit.
Great; thanks. I'll take a look to see where I can mount it; I didn't think the reception would be sufficient.
3 Days Ago 06:54 PM
SVAuspicious
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

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Does that hookup go for the Raymarine C80 chartplotter as well? We have the radar already connected. I'd like to hook up an AIS and I quite like the Vester (rec/transmit) but haven't purchased yet. I'd rather have a 2nd antenna, but I have the vhg on the masthead, and it's a rotating mast on our tri, so I'm trying to avoid the spreaders.
Yep.

You can put the second antenna on the pushpit.
3 Days Ago 04:09 PM
LeeV
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

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Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
I quite like the Raymarine E80 - it is a good plotter. Remember you'll have to use the setup menus to change the E80 NMEA 0183 interface from 4800 bps to 36400 bps for AIS. You may already have something hooked up at 4800 bps (VHF DSC radios for exampls) in which chase you'll have to make a decision. You can add a multiplexer like the Actisense NDC-4-AIS to provide data rates suitable for all your NMEA 0183 inputs and outputs. You might also build a small network segment (either NMEA 2000 or SeaTalkng for future "someday" upgrades and do one conversion to SeaTalk or SeaTalkhs; in future new equipment will be added to the new segment and older equipment will be retired from the old segment(s).

If you are fortunate, nothing is connected to the NMEA 0183 interface on the E80 and you can just hook things up.

Please please PLEASE hook up a silent switch so you can run your electronics without transmitting. Don't be a lid transmitting from the dock.



I think I've been pretty clear I don't think much of splitters and why. VHF and AIS performance deteriorates. You can't beat physics. In the grand scheme of everything we can do on and to our boats I don't think I would call it a big mistake: no one will die and your boat won't sink. I think it is not well advised.

Most arches leave plenty of room for an antenna farm. Your biggest issue is shading - not nearly so big a problem with VHF as your wind generator.

Good luck with your project.
Does that hookup go for the Raymarine C80 chartplotter as well? We have the radar already connected. I'd like to hook up an AIS and I quite like the Vester (rec/transmit) but haven't purchased yet. I'd rather have a 2nd antenna, but I have the vhg on the masthead, and it's a rotating mast on our tri, so I'm trying to avoid the spreaders.

Thanks,
~Lee
01-11-2016 02:03 PM
SVAuspicious
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

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Originally Posted by E38 View Post
Right, I don't know what is connected to the E80 NMEA 0183 and will find out this weekend. As I understand it, I can take anything connected there and move to the NMEA 0183 4800 baud connection on the AIS650 with the 38400 baud NMEA 018 connection on the AIS650 going to the E80 NMEA 0183.
That is supposed to work. If it does not update the firmware in the AIS650. That works much more easily if you have Internet at the dock.

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Can't argue with your experience...why does Raymarine suggest the splitter for AIS install on a sailboat?
Because they sell more AIS receivers and transponders if the make it appear easier.

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A friend recommended the wirie. After doing some checking into options, I decided to go with it. I saw where I could same some money by assembling something similar from components, but the wirie seems pretty turnkey.
Best of luck. In side by side comparisons, even with the Wirie/Bullet performance is better with the two part systems. Your mileage will not vary.
01-11-2016 09:42 AM
E38
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

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Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
You may already have something hooked up at 4800 bps (VHF DSC radios for exampls) in which chase you'll have to make a decision. You can add a multiplexer like the Actisense NDC-4-AIS to provide data rates suitable for all your NMEA 0183 inputs and outputs.
Right, I don't know what is connected to the E80 NMEA 0183 and will find out this weekend. As I understand it, I can take anything connected there and move to the NMEA 0183 4800 baud connection on the AIS650 with the 38400 baud NMEA 018 connection on the AIS650 going to the E80 NMEA 0183.

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Please please PLEASE hook up a silent switch so you can run your electronics without transmitting. Don't be a lid transmitting from the dock.
Definitely.

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I think I've been pretty clear I don't think much of splitters and why. VHF and AIS performance deteriorates. You can't beat physics.
Can't argue with your experience...why does Raymarine suggest the splitter for AIS install on a sailboat?

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What WiFi range extender did you choose?
A friend recommended the wirie. After doing some checking into options, I decided to go with it. I saw where I could same some money by assembling something similar from components, but the wirie seems pretty turnkey.

Thanks for you comments.
01-09-2016 08:54 AM
SVAuspicious
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

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I have a Raymarine E80 with GPS, radar, and autopilot and would like to add AIS. With the range of options out there, I decided to keep it simple as a DIY project and stick with Raymarine (not as simple as I thought because it turns out the E80 SeaTalk is not compatible with the AIS650 SeaTalk-ng and I have to use the NMEA 0183 connection between the AIS and E80).
I quite like the Raymarine E80 - it is a good plotter. Remember you'll have to use the setup menus to change the E80 NMEA 0183 interface from 4800 bps to 36400 bps for AIS. You may already have something hooked up at 4800 bps (VHF DSC radios for exampls) in which chase you'll have to make a decision. You can add a multiplexer like the Actisense NDC-4-AIS to provide data rates suitable for all your NMEA 0183 inputs and outputs. You might also build a small network segment (either NMEA 2000 or SeaTalkng for future "someday" upgrades and do one conversion to SeaTalk or SeaTalkhs; in future new equipment will be added to the new segment and older equipment will be retired from the old segment(s).

If you are fortunate, nothing is connected to the NMEA 0183 interface on the E80 and you can just hook things up.

Please please PLEASE hook up a silent switch so you can run your electronics without transmitting. Don't be a lid transmitting from the dock.

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Originally Posted by E38 View Post
I have an arch with two solar panels, a wind generator, radar, and GPS antenna. I am adding an antenna for Wi-Fi boosting and now another GPS antenna for AIS. I decided that will all that on the arch, I would go with a splitter for the VHF and purchased the Raymarine AIS100 splitter and I have the Raymarine AIS650 transponder. I hope this was not a big mistake…planning on installing next weekend.
I think I've been pretty clear I don't think much of splitters and why. VHF and AIS performance deteriorates. You can't beat physics. In the grand scheme of everything we can do on and to our boats I don't think I would call it a big mistake: no one will die and your boat won't sink. I think it is not well advised.

Most arches leave plenty of room for an antenna farm. Your biggest issue is shading - not nearly so big a problem with VHF as your wind generator.

Good luck with your project.

What WiFi range extender did you choose?
01-08-2016 06:23 PM
alctel
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

I've got my VHF antenna on my masthead and my AIS antenna mounted on the back of my spreader.

The AIS transponder and the VHF unit are next to each other, so if I lost one of the antennas I could easily switch to using the other one in a matter of seconds.

IMO, having that redundancy is worth the extra hassle.
01-08-2016 03:41 PM
E38
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

SVA,
Timely discussion for me (although maybe I’m coming to it a bit late). I am about to undertake a similar project. I have a Raymarine E80 with GPS, radar, and autopilot and would like to add AIS. With the range of options out there, I decided to keep it simple as a DIY project and stick with Raymarine (not as simple as I thought because it turns out the E80 SeaTalk is not compatible with the AIS650 SeaTalk-ng and I have to use the NMEA 0183 connection between the AIS and E80). I have an arch with two solar panels, a wind generator, radar, and GPS antenna. I am adding an antenna for Wi-Fi boosting and now another GPS antenna for AIS. I decided that will all that on the arch, I would go with a splitter for the VHF and purchased the Raymarine AIS100 splitter and I have the Raymarine AIS650 transponder. I hope this was not a big mistake…planning on installing next weekend.
John
01-07-2016 07:20 PM
SVAuspicious
Re: AIS Unit for Raymarine Chartplotter System

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I'm most likely headed towards Vesper kit (splitter and AIS unit).

Hope it interops OK with the rest of the Zeus/Triton kit. One way to find out.
I still strongly recommend separate antennas. You won't be sorry.

Regardless, if you have interface questions the time to work them out is before you spend money and open boxes.

Post what you are considering and when I have a chance I'll look through the manuals.
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