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02-05-2012 12:30 PM
tankersteve Killarney,

Thanks for the info on the Moodies. I guess some brands did what they had to do to survive. I like the look of the Moodies, but parts would probably be harder to source, and the owner's site for Cat 42s is tough to beat for advice.

As for buying a charter boat, the wife is not into the option of buying this way. She wants the boat to have 'her stuff' and 'our gear' on it and it seems like it would be hard to equip in this manner. Ideally, we would buy on the east coast, even florida with its great parts availability. Would prices be that much better in the areas you mentioned, such as parts or (especially) labor?

As we will be bringing a fair amount of equipment across from our previous boat, I am not sure if it would be economical to ship it all.

Thanks for the help.

Tankersteve
01-29-2012 09:47 PM
killarney_sailor Moodies, like Bristol and probably other brands, went up-market in their later years to find buyers so there is a difference between the older and newer. I have a friend with a Moody 345 and it is a very nice boat, although would seem a bit tight with two growing kids for me. Also the three cabins in a boat like this are the fore, aft and main, so the parents end up sleeping in the main cabin which means that the dinette table needs to be folded down every night - or you sleep on opposite settees. A big advantage of the charter boats is that there are many with three sleeping cabins.

If you were to buy an old charter boat it would be a good idea to be somewhere with good access to boat bits. There are very good marine stores in St Thomas, St Maarten. and Grenada. You could go out there ahead of the family to do the work needed - and there would be work needed.
01-29-2012 08:16 PM
tankersteve
Ok

They just look like a pretty nice, well-built boat, yet have catalina or even lower pricing. Well, a bit more research is in order.

Tankersteve
01-29-2012 07:58 PM
jackdale
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Originally Posted by tankersteve View Post
I have looked at these and they seem quite nice, yet strangely are rather affordable? At least below the 54 foot length. What am I missing?

Of course, most are in the med...

Tankersteve

Steve

Some Elites were built in Sorel, Quebec during the '80s. Some are still around in the PNW. I sued to use a 364 for teaching and was watch captain on a delivery from Hawaii on a 37 in 2000.
01-29-2012 07:49 PM
tankersteve
What is the 411 on the Kiries?

I have looked at these and they seem quite nice, yet strangely are rather affordable? At least below the 54 foot length. What am I missing?

Of course, most are in the med...

Tankersteve
01-29-2012 07:00 PM
tankersteve
Thorny Path

Faster,

Ahh, a brand new topic to research. Actually, sounds very interesting, with some tough jaunts - probably get some help and offload the family. I'll be getting deep into this...

Michael K,

Like that Moody - will have to keep my eye on those. Definitely more Buick/Mercury than Chevy/Ford, in my eyes. However, for the money involved, probably have to get an older one, which likely means longer, more extensive refit. I have some new research to do.

And there is definitely a theme about checking boats coming out of charter. I'll give some looks. Would be hard to just jump on a boat without a big checkout and some gradual 'orientation' sailing, but may make a lot of sense.

Tankersteve
01-29-2012 06:41 PM
jackdale
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A Moody 41 has three cabins. So does a Kirie Elite 37, but its draft may be a bit much at 6'. Recently saw one of the latter listed at under $40K - a good price for a stout design.
I do like the Elite. I have sailed both the 364 and the 37. Have the surveyor check the aft stringers carefully, I know of one that had some rot that may have resulted in increased flexibility in the stern.

The only Moody I have sailed was a 34CC. Nice roomy boat.
01-29-2012 06:20 PM
Michael K
Two Options

A Moody 41 has three cabins. So does a Kirie Elite 37, but its draft may be a bit much at 6'. Recently saw one of the latter listed at under $40K - a good price for a stout design.
01-29-2012 05:43 PM
Faster
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Originally Posted by tankersteve View Post
.... I guess I have been casually hearing (but not really acknowledging) that the jump off is a bit tough. Is there an actual 'route' that is the recommended track? What is the general method of doing the Caribbean? .
Known as the Thorny Path.. here's a google search result on the term.

Google

Island hopping can be a doddle, easy 40-50 mile daysails (usually) reaching in tradewind conditions, esp from Antigua/Barbuda pretty well all the way to Grenada. Great fun on a good boat.

But the long beat from Florida is often done strapped down and motorsailing upwind.. and it's a long way. (disclaimer..not done this myself, just going by what we hear) Doesn't sound like much fun.

Buying charter boats is an 'eyes wide open' proposition, some of them get a bit beat up, and the constant UV exposure tends to make them look older than they are. Hopefully finding one with a good outfit will make a difference.
01-29-2012 05:22 PM
tankersteve
Thanks for the replies

Jackdale and Faster,

I greatly appreciate the feedback. I'll have to look at the boats in charter. I guess I have been casually hearing (but not really acknowledging) that the jump off is a bit tough. Is there an actual 'route' that is the recommended track? What is the general method of doing the Caribbean?

One area I didn't mention is that at least partly doing the ICW is also interesting, but I wouldn't mind just getting a boat in FL, doing a refit for a few months, in conjunction with some test sails, and then head off through the keys and into the bahamas.

Tankersteve
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