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02-18-2012 12:09 AM
Capt Len A good selection of affordable wines and beers are now available in in Phuket, Krabi and Trang. Try the Tesco Lotus .
02-04-2012 08:13 PM
aeventyr60 We bought Spanish table wine in the Philippines for 2$ a litre. Just finished our last box. Luckily the duty free port of Langkawi is just 70 miles away. Beer there is 8$ a case, good Gin/Vodka/Rum for 7$ a litre, so we will be stocking up...big time for our next 6 months in Thailand.
We visited the town of Tequila in Mexico. Bought a 10 litre wooden keg of Reposado Tequila, that's 100% Agave, kinda like a single malt. Sipped that stuff all the way across the Pacific. Sundowners were never so good after that keg ran dry...
02-04-2012 05:39 PM
killarney_sailor
What kind of cruising?

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Originally Posted by rugosa View Post
Sounds like the consensus is sample wines locally, carry a small stash of the good stuff, lay in substantial rum for the long haul. Yup, that works
You were not clear about your potential cruising routes so it is hard to be specific. For extended cruising you stock up where you can. If you are going to the Bahamas this means in the US, if you are going into the Pacific, Panama is wonderful.

US - most people have a sense of the prices so won't go into it; Bahamas and Caribbean are much (or much, much) more expensive.

Caribbean - you can generally get rum cheap in most places, duty-free is sometimes available; French Islands (Guadeloupe, Martinique, St Marten) have a wonderful selection of wine although it depends to be mainly better quality wines with an emphasis on heavier reds (Bordeauxs etc) and you won't see a Merlot anywhere; actually the shopping in St Marten is on the Dutch side since it is duty free and the French side isn't

Panama - we bought Chilean box wines for $2/l and they were drinkable and seemed not to change over many months (or perhaps our taste buds 'evolved'). Good rum was about $8/l

Papeete - only place in South Pacific with decent wine selection and reasonable (not cheap) prices; quite like French parts of Caribbean but a bit more pricey

Australia - excellent wine selection and prices as long as you stick to Aussie wines; beer is expensive, liqour is really expensive - rum is close to $50/l, even for the local stuff.

Anywhere else we went, we did not buy, either because of selection or price (often both)

When entering (~20) countries we were often asked for quantities of beer/wine/liquor and we had quite a bit but it was always accepted as 'ship stores' so never a problem. Conclusion, buy where you can and stock up. If you want to buy good wine, try a few bottles and see how they last - blige would be best since at least the temperature is constant.
02-04-2012 02:39 PM
flyingwelshman
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I was amazed at the lack of durabilty of beer cans in the bilgadare. Tiny abrasions and bilge pump. Even worse was the loss of tonic water.
You're right about that. I had a Kilkenny explode on me when I put it into an ice-cube-filled cooler. It wasn't on my boat so a bit embarrassing.

I have a 110v/12v/propane cooler that I hold my beer in. It's plugged in for shore power. When underway or away from the dock I just let it stay cool and keep those things that don't need to be refrigerated (butter, juice, Guinness etc.) in it. Knock wood, but I haven't lost one yet....
02-04-2012 01:30 PM
Capt Len I was amazed at the lack of durabilty of beer cans in the bilgadare. Tiny abrasions and bilge pump. Even worse was the loss of tonic water.
02-04-2012 12:23 PM
flyingwelshman We haven't had to cross any borders yet, but here's what we do for beverages aboard:
First of all I don't like any glass on board, so our wines are in boxes , our spirits are in nalgene or plastic bottles and beer is tinned.

For red wine (which we mostly drink while aboard as refrigeration isn't an issue) we took a neoprene lunch bag similar to this:


and cut at cauterized a hole in one corner.

The bag will hold a 4-litre wine bag easily. We push the spout of the wine bag through the hole we made in the corner and hang the bag from a hand-rail in the cabin. This keeps the wine accessible, easy to pour, and we don't have to deal with the soggy boxes. We call this contraption the 'Wine Tit'. It get's rave reviews when we have guests aboard.

For spirits I got these nalgene water bottles:



I use a green one for scotch, a red one for rum and a blue one for vodka. So far they have worked well: don't leak, don't break. One funny thing was that last year a friend came out with me. He used the same blue bottle for his water. He inadvertently grabbed my vodka and took a swig. Hilarity ensued!

As I said, beer in tins. I usually have Guinness aboard. I can keep it cool easily enough and it tastes better that way. If I'm going on an extended cruise I will have an additional 5-day cooler aboard for meats etc.. Any beer or white wine that needs to be well chilled goes in there.
02-04-2012 10:41 AM
SVAuspicious Since the original question included crossing international boundaries I thought I would share my experience.

I always list alcohol as part of ship's stores labeled "for personal consumption."

I have a liquor locker with a locking hasp. I've had a couple of customs officers look at it, but no one every asked to seal it.

I have two places to keep padded wine bottles. Neither is great from a wine storage point of view but okay for a few nice bottles for special occasions while cruising. Most of the wine is boxed stuff stowed under settees in the aft cabin with the emergency water.

I've never been charged duty despite having well over the allowable import amounts and declaring everything.

Food is a different matter. I've a number of items seized for incineration. Now I do a better job of using up fresh fruit, veg, and meats before clearing in.
02-04-2012 10:37 AM
bljones Quite frankly, if you have any more than a "small stash" of the good stuff, you didn't spend enough on your last refit.
02-04-2012 10:32 AM
rugosa Sounds like the consensus is sample wines locally, carry a small stash of the good stuff, lay in substantial rum for the long haul. Yup, that works
02-04-2012 10:31 AM
RobGallagher Actually, I think there are some "better" (depending on your definition of better, I mean better than in the past and very drinkable) wines being sold in a box.

Also, some of the boxes are getting all trendy and funky so consumers won't feel so weird about it.

The bonus is that the bladders don't allow air or light to get to the wine so it lasts much longer after opening.

It's a great solution for boaters.
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