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10-02-2006 04:27 PM
sailingdog
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Originally Posted by eryka
I think I'd add glazing to this list. Some coastal boats seem intent on making it light and bright down below, it can be difficult (read "more expensive") to make that expanse of clear plexiglas stout enough to resist the force of tons of water when the going gets rough.

Now shall we start a separate thread on the sugar-scoop transoms vs traditional closed ones?
Very true... large ports are fun to look out, until what you see out of them is all green water in a storm...

Yes, please do start a new thread on sugar scoop swim platforms.
10-02-2006 03:33 PM
eryka
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Originally Posted by sailingdog
Many modern boats are far more beamy and designed to be more "floating condo" than sailboat in some ways. A coastal cruiser can afford the negatives of the changes in modern boat design, far better than a bluewater boat.

Large open spaces found in many newer designs are rather quite dangerous in heavy seas. Getting thrown across a salon that is six feet wide is less dangerous than getting thrown 10 feet. Most modern coastal cruisers don't have any berths that would be suitable for use on a longer, heavy weather open ocean passage. The roomy cabins that sell a boat at a boat show, don't make much sense on a bluewater passage.
I think I'd add glazing to this list. Some coastal boats seem intent on making it light and bright down below, it can be difficult (read "more expensive") to make that expanse of clear plexiglas stout enough to resist the force of tons of water when the going gets rough.

Now shall we start a separate thread on the sugar-scoop transoms vs traditional closed ones?
10-02-2006 02:38 PM
eryka Take her on trips to exotic locations, and give her lots of space, understanding , and a gentle touch ;-)
10-02-2006 02:34 PM
PBzeer
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Originally Posted by eryka
Exactly! Quietly, without any fuss, simple, reliable ... girl power!!
But what kind of gifts do you give a windvane to keep her that way? Enquiring minds want to know!
10-02-2006 01:32 PM
eryka
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Originally Posted by sailingdog
Eryka-

So, if you had a wind vane, it'd have a woman's name, but the autopilot is male...
Exactly! Quietly, without any fuss, simple, reliable ... girl power!! "Wendy the Windvane" is a tad too obvious, and probably "Monica the Monitor" is too. I'll need more time to think about a good name, good thing wind vane isn't on this years' boat show purchase list ...
10-02-2006 01:30 PM
eryka
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Originally Posted by rossir
eryka - your CSY is the kind of keel/rudder combination I am interested in. How does she handle?
rossir - the tradeoffs between tracking straight and agility will depend on what you're using the boat for. Our modified-full keel handles a lot like a tank when trying to turn in tight places like a marina, somewhat aided by the barn door sized rudder. She does quite well steering a straight line out in the open, though. CSYs have are nicknamed 'reef crunchers' - sturdy, heavy, overbuilt, slow. You don't buy these boats for performance, they were built specifically for the heavier winds of the tropics and the rigors of the charter trade.
10-02-2006 01:01 PM
rossir eryka - your CSY is the kind of keel/rudder combination I am interested in. How does she handle?
10-02-2006 12:56 PM
rossir well sailingdog - my interest is steering in the direction of a skeg, but I don't see them in the more recently produced boats. I also do like the tartans - 34-37 - but I'm not resolved to go with spade. Any designs you could recommend?
10-02-2006 12:53 PM
eryka
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Originally Posted by sailingdog
The main problem with fin keel/spade rudders is that in the case of a grounding or very heavy seas, there is very little support or protection for the rudder. This is not to say that spade rudders aren't seaworthy, but a skeg obviously provides the rudder a lot more support and protection than it sticking out into the water on its own.
Besides tracking straighter, I suspect also that the engineering stresses on a fin keel (deep, narrow, with a short attachment to the hull for its area) will be far greater than those on a full or modfied full keel (shallow with a long attachment to the hull); someone like Jeff H can probably give you a more quantitative analysis of this.
10-02-2006 12:48 PM
sailingdog Eryka-

So, if you had a wind vane, it'd have a woman's name, but the autopilot is male...
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