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05-01-2007 08:55 PM
gyrfalcon
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Originally Posted by sailingdog
The sea kayaking story is a good example of why you can't always count on getting into a harbor in bad weather...
Yeah I though it was pretty neat... Here is a nice VHF primer too if anyone wants to check it out: A VHF Primer - Boating Safety Information
05-01-2007 08:01 PM
sailingdog The sea kayaking story is a good example of why you can't always count on getting into a harbor in bad weather...
05-01-2007 07:32 PM
gyrfalcon
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Originally Posted by gsheath
...Similar localised legislation and regulation exists in Australia aswell, as I'm sure it does in other 'member states' of the ITU...
You're correct about ITU...but if someones life is in emanate danger I don't think it matters if you use Mayday, PanPan, SOS, Help, or Ohmygod as long as you're able to get assistance.

Here is the US Coast Guards DSC Operational Procedures for Ships

You'll notice it says
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A distress alert should be transmitted if, in the opinion of the Master, the ship or a person is in distress and requires immediate assistance.
On a side note here is an interesting story about Kayakers issuing a PanPan urgency call.
04-26-2007 08:32 PM
sailingdog
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Originally Posted by labatt
No pun intended?
Who me... do I look like someone who'd pun?
04-26-2007 02:41 PM
labatt
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Originally Posted by sailingdog
Are you aware that you're replying to a thread that was over six months old and pretty dead until you revived it.
No pun intended?
04-25-2007 10:19 PM
sailingdog Burlesque-

Are you aware that you're replying to a thread that was over six months old and pretty dead until you revived it.
04-25-2007 09:28 PM
burlesque Mostup to date references I can find to Mayday calls (inc. GMDSS procedures) refer to the vessell or persons in grave or imminent danger. I suggest you use Mayday - who is going to argue?
09-27-2006 08:07 PM
Sasha_V When it was me doing it. I just made it up as I went along. Only later did we sit down and anylise what choices I had made. We knew they were at least acceptable choices by the fact I was having the discussion with the blanket wrapped survivor of going overboard into cold waters in 25knot winds.

I basically decided not to screw around with trying to sail it perfectly and fired up the motor, depowered the sails and came back on a reciprical compass course because they were not immediately visible (or wearing a PFD). I drifted down on them sideways so that I could work from the middle of the boat and the boat provided some calm form the wind and waves. As an added advantage, the wind was causing the boat to heel over in that direction as even de-powered sails provide a ton of windage and so it was easier to lift the now totally weak-as-a-newborn-kitten and exhausted rescuee on board with the boat flopped over by about 15-20 extra degrees.

As to the tool used to assist the rescue. I found a boat hook was effectatious and close to hand on deck. I was not going below to grab something and risk loosing site of the MOB again. The boat hook got slipped down the back of the persons shirt while they were floating uproight and holding to my other arm. I then had some leverage on their centre of gravity in order to help them into the boat (head first, face down).

I found the lifelines to be one of the most annoying and problamatic aspects of the rescue, and have since replaced mine with Spectra, which is as strong as steel, softer to fall against, and can be cut with a knife if you need to recover someone from overboard. I would have needed to bring some rope, improvise a harness, attach the person tot he side of the boat, go forawrds and unhook the pelican hook, come back and THEN enact rescue if I was going to lower the steel lifelines. Not a great option, so spectra is better as I always have a knife in pocket whilst sailing.

Sasha
09-27-2006 07:41 PM
Rockter I have never had to do it, but drifting down on them would be my only chance. At least I could get a hold of the MOB.

If I came up from downwind, beam on, the old ship would lean away from the MOB and I would never be able to reach down that far.
09-27-2006 06:52 PM
hellosailor Thanks for the reference, Graham.

Looking back I see "The chief said that if he had been unconscious, he'd be floating facing up & breathing close to normal." which strikes me as oddly contradictory to everything I've seen on the subject. Scuba BC's and Type1 PFDs especially are designed to *rotate* an unconcious person so they will be face-up in the water. Whether you're face up or down is just the luck of the fall, and face down just ensures a better chance of drowning AFAIK.

Personally I'm not afraid of *being* in the water, but of "going" in the water--and cracking my noggin on the way. Which brings back the old question, if you recover a MOB, do you want to "drift down" on them, or come up from downwind of them. (Decisions, decisions.)
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