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03-22-2012 11:03 PM
wlbutts
Re: Propane Outboards?

RE: SailNet Community - View Profile: AllThumbs who said "Anything that uses the 1 lbs bottles as fuel is NOT environmentally friendly. The bottles are disposable, which means they go in a land fill if you are lucky. Most landfills, at least in Canada, won't take them, and they need to be disposed of at a hazardous waste depot, and they charge to take them, about the same price as they cost to buy."

I beg to differ, once emptied the 1 pound bottles weigh 14 ounces the same weight of steel and therefore the same environmental footprint of 6 Campbell Soup Cans

You can reduce this impact by refilling the small bottles

Mr. Heater Propane Tank Refill Adapter, Heaters & Accessories, Camp Essentials, Camping : Cabela's

They are easy to empy with a "needle valve tool" when you remove both the fill valve and the overfill valve they are only scrap metal. Our local scrap yards and propane dealers take the empty bottles without charge

Worst case senario, dispose in landfill with same environmental impact as 6 empty cans of Campbell Soup (weight 14oz steel).
02-24-2012 03:38 PM
pdqaltair
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Originally Posted by AllThumbs View Post
Anything that uses the 1 lbs bottles as fuel is NOT environmentally friendly. The bottles are disposable, which means they go in a land fill if you are lucky. Most landfills, at least in Canada, won't take them, and they need to be disposed of at a hazardous waste depot, and they charge to take them, about the same price as they cost to buy.

If you convert an outboard to propane, make sure it uses the refillable bottles if you are concerned about the environment. Refillable bottles come in sizes as small as 5 lbs.
They come with refillable bottles. They can be run on disposable bottles.

Point well taken.
02-24-2012 02:22 PM
AllThumbs Tohatsu makes Mercury and Evinrude. It's just a different sticker yo.
02-24-2012 12:56 PM
casey1999
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It seems like a waste of time to build these things......some of the new 4 strokes are very clean and efficient. a 5 gallon gas tank is cheaper and easier to use that a 5 gallon propane tank...are these engines quieter than gas?....what I think what would be green and cool would be a electric that would use the battery pack like the cordless tools ....battery goes dead swap one out and recharge it...and a solar charger would make it sweet and easy to use....also I am a newbie to sailnet ...this is cool and you folks ROCK.....thanks....
Voila:
Electric Outboard Motors
02-24-2012 10:59 AM
tommays Bubb

I seen to many off brands come and go and what makes a great weedwacker tends to be and epic fail in a saltwater outboard
02-24-2012 10:06 AM
bubb2 Price to low?
Check Defender
2.5hp Tohatsu $833
6hp Tohatsu $1300 +/-

Propane
2.5hp $1000
5hp $1600
02-24-2012 08:56 AM
tommays The whole point to me is getting around the problems E-10 fuel causes in limited use motors as the newer 3 star carbs foul if you look at them funny

The outboard itself is clearly not a covereted name brand and is a chinese something as the price is way to low

There is NO service or dealer network YET
02-23-2012 10:00 PM
hellosailor The only problem with re-using the 1# cylinders is that they are designed to be used and tossed. They can rust out internally, which would be a nasty surprise. And the "seal" is just a rubber ball in the neck, also not meant for great wear resistance or durability.

I'd have no qualms with re-using them--with care and with limited expectations. And the brass screw caps for them (sold in rv and cmaping stores) of course make the danger of a leaking valve much less.
02-23-2012 09:37 PM
ovb It seems like a waste of time to build these things......some of the new 4 strokes are very clean and efficient. a 5 gallon gas tank is cheaper and easier to use that a 5 gallon propane tank...are these engines quieter than gas?....what I think what would be green and cool would be a electric that would use the battery pack like the cordless tools ....battery goes dead swap one out and recharge it...and a solar charger would make it sweet and easy to use....also I am a newbie to sailnet ...this is cool and you folks ROCK.....thanks....
02-23-2012 09:27 PM
copacetic I've used the HF adapter with no problems for the past year. We use the 1lbers for lanterns and grills when camping and occasionally here at the house. As to how safe the process is that would be up to the user to decide but like any other flamable material you don't want any sparks...but that's a no brainer
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