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03-13-2012 12:53 AM
chef2sail
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

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Originally Posted by Ulladh
For all the Chesapeake sailors when you have light or no breeze in the summer we have fairly reliable wind down river from Marcus Hook, and steady wind in the bay below the Cohansey.
Small price to pay for a few weeks in the summer for the wonderfull sailing from March through December. We love the ability to take a trip for a weekend and anchor somewere nice up a small creek or river. We also like the ability to raft up with others.
So many places to visit on the Chessie with a close distance, but at the same timne you feel you got away from the crowds.

Hey when the winds stop blowing on the Chessie do like we do...head up to Long Island and New England for 3 weeks..

Dave

Rick, I can appreciate what you say about having it close by. We are 45 minurtes from our boat and go for evening sails after work occasioonally
03-12-2012 11:03 PM
TakeFive
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

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For all the Chesapeake sailors when you have light or no breeze in the summer we have fairly reliable wind down river from Marcus Hook, and steady wind in the bay below the Cohansey.

Fluky and gusty up river from Commodore Barry but very predictable shore line breezes when the temperature starts nudging 100 deg F
I've found the evening breezes to be very steady all summer long, even above the bridge. They seem to be particularly good on days that go well into the 90's. Heading out around 5 or 6 pm almost always makes for a pleasant evening sail down to the bridge and back. Weeknight sails after work would be impossible if I had to drive 1-2 hours each way.
03-12-2012 10:59 PM
TakeFive
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

I'll tell you an interesting Delaware River story. Whenever there is a northerly breeze and we're off the Eddystone shore, we smell this delicious chocolate smell. Have you noticed it? I would always think, "OMG, some factory is spewing out some hazardous chemical that smells like chocolate."

Then several weeks ago this article alleviated my fears. I can breathe easy, so long as I stay away from Paulsboro when there's a southerly breeze. I hope the chocolate factory is back online by the time we splash.
03-12-2012 09:09 PM
Ulladh
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

Not the best video, test flight of a chinook at the Boeing plant down river from Philadelphia airport. Industrial can be entertaining.

03-12-2012 08:49 PM
Ulladh
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

For all the Chesapeake sailors when you have light or no breeze in the summer we have fairly reliable wind down river from Marcus Hook, and steady wind in the bay below the Cohansey.

Fluky and gusty up river from Commodore Barry but very predictable shore line breezes when the temperature starts nudging 100 deg F
03-12-2012 07:06 PM
Ulladh
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

After following the discussion on another thread on taxes on MD, the Delaware River and Bay gets even more attractive.

There is a fragmented Industrial Hertiage Trail ( to be completed eventually) from Trenton to Wilmington along the Delaware River with close to 400 years of European industrial development overlaying 10,000 years of human occupation. The shore line is a history lesson.

If the desire is a bucolic shore line then go upriver from the Tacony Bridge or down river from Marcus Hook, and if you just want to be alone go to the bay below the Cohansey.
03-12-2012 06:01 PM
deniseO30
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

Doesn't need to bother with Marina's on the River, Has a whole network of YCs instead.
many don't have deep water but all of them welcome members from other DRYL clubs
03-12-2012 04:43 PM
TakeFive
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

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having grown up in Delaware County and having spent my summers as a youth on the Chesapeake Bay I believe the answer can be summed up in two sentences:

1) because the Delaware River and it's shoreline in this area is all industrial and ugly
2) The Chesapeake Bay is only a 45 minute drive from there and is beautiful.

Why eat hamburger when you have have filet mignon?

ps: there's not a single decent marina until you get to the C&D Canal.

My step son has worked as a dock hand at the Chesapeake Inn for the last three summers while he was in school and folks coming from the Delaware to the C&D Canal think they've landed in an Oasis compared to the Delaware.
I don't think any of the Delaware River sailors have seriously disputed this. We all agree that about the only compelling reason to sail the Delaware River is the convenience of its location relative to where we live. And that lack of attractiveness is exactly why a high end marina would not be financially viable on the Delaware.

However, I do have a couple of factual disputes.

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......the Delaware River and it's shoreline in this area is all industrial and ugly...
There is no denying that there is a substantial amount of industry along the Delaware. To suggest that it is "all ugly" strikes me as a "glass half empty" attitude. There are some interesting things going on along the river, and guests on my boat have often found them fascinating to see. You might not see many ospreys landing, but you might see a V-22 Osprey (and other amphibious aircraft) landing. There are a couple of interesting towns and other scenery along the river, and Ulladh has posted pictures of them in the past.
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......The Chesapeake Bay is only a 45 minute drive from there...
From where I live in the middle of Delaware County, it's 1 hour (much more in traffic) to Northeast River Yacht Club. That's about the closest tributary of the bay, and it's not really "bay sailing." There's a very limited sailable range, and a long, narrow motor down to Turkey Point. So you go looking for better sailing, and much like with sailboats, you get "15 minute-itis." As you cross off the various North Cheaspeake locations because of skinny water and/or too long a motor to get to open water, you pretty much end up at Still Pond, Worton Creek, or Rock Hall (second to Annapolis as a sailing mecca). Now you're in the middle of some fantastic sailing. But you're 2 hours away! So your 45 minute comment kind of misrepresents the issue of driving distance.
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...Why eat hamburger when you have have filet mignon?...
If I had to drive 1-2 hours every time I wanted filet mignon, I'd settle for hamburger at home most of the time.

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Originally Posted by administrator View Post
...ps: there's not a single decent marina until you get to the C&D Canal...
As made repeatedly clear here, this all depends on how you define "decent." Put it this way: When the day comes that my lifestyle allows me sufficient time to move my boat down to the bay, I would be perfectly happy if I found a marina there that was comparable to West End, Fox's Grove, or Anchorage. So for me personally, the Delaware River's well known shortcomings have little to do with the quality of the marinas.
03-12-2012 03:26 PM
Yamsailor
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

ok--I'll buy that.


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Originally Posted by administrator View Post
having grown up in Delaware County and having spent my summers as a youth on the Chesapeake Bay I believe the answer can be summed up in two sentences:

1) because the Delaware River and it's shoreline in this area is all industrial and ugly
2) The Chesapeake Bay is only a 45 minute drive from there and is beautiful.

Why eat hamburger when you have have filet mignon?

ps: there's not a single decent marina until you get to the C&D Canal.

My step son has worked as a dock hand at the Chesapeake Inn for the last three summers while he was in school and folks coming from the Delaware to the C&D Canal think they've landed in an Oasis compared to the Delaware.
03-09-2012 03:34 PM
administrator
Re: Not one nice Marina from Trenton to Essington, Pa

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Originally Posted by Yamsailor View Post
Hi folks,

I sail alot on the Delaware River and in NY Harbor. There seems to be a dearth of nice marinas in NY Harbor in NYC as well as NJ. Some have some really nice restaurants, and some of them even have pools.

Why does the Philadelphia area have such crappy marinas. Helk, the Philadelphia Marine Center doesn't even dredge their marina.

I tell you. The boating experience on the Delaware River is getting worse and worse. I am thinking about moving my boat to the Sandy Hook area or Jersey City area. Yes I'll pay more but at least I'll get services and amenities.

Any thoughts on this?
having grown up in Delaware County and having spent my summers as a youth on the Chesapeake Bay I believe the answer can be summed up in two sentences:

1) because the Delaware River and it's shoreline in this area is all industrial and ugly
2) The Chesapeake Bay is only a 45 minute drive from there and is beautiful.

Why eat hamburger when you have have filet mignon?

ps: there's not a single decent marina until you get to the C&D Canal.

My step son has worked as a dock hand at the Chesapeake Inn for the last three summers while he was in school and folks coming from the Delaware to the C&D Canal think they've landed in an Oasis compared to the Delaware.
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