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04-27-2012 02:31 AM
L124C
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

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Originally Posted by KeelHaulin View Post
I suspect that the cable that the helicopter uses is an anti-torsion design so that whatever it is hauling will not start spinning due to the wind created by the rotor blades.
Probably correct. That, combined with the fact that the pick points were Fore and Aft (as opposed to Port and Starboard) might explain why the boat flew abeam. Sad to see her flying sideways over her domain, at speeds she should have never obtained.
In any case, that is one Baaaaad little bird! Basically, a cockpit attached to a massive engine. The load on the Rotors made them saucer shaped. Amazing!
Back to sailing - This article probably sums up the tether issue, and supports my theory that "life" lines are overrated, and tethers are underrated. Farallones survivor: Sailors must rethink safety
04-24-2012 04:33 PM
KeelHaulin
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

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Wow! I've never seen a sailboat carried by a chopper before. It was interesting that the boat stayed beam to the wind. Maybe the straps had something to do with that or maybe the rudder was set to create that. I half expected to see the boat either spinning or bow into the wind.
I suspect that the cable that the helicopter uses is an anti-torsion design so that whatever it is hauling will not start spinning due to the wind created by the rotor blades.
04-24-2012 01:54 PM
SlowButSteady
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

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Is it just me or is the wheel spinning free while the helicopter is carrying it? That might indicate steering failure.
The boat was bashed on the rocks for over a week, remember? I'm a little surprised it's pretty much in one piece.
04-24-2012 01:07 PM
AdamLein
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

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Originally Posted by overbored View Post
Is it just me or is the wheel spinning free while the helicopter is carrying it? That might indicate steering failure.
04-24-2012 10:24 AM
JulieMor
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

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Originally Posted by overbored View Post
Wow! I've never seen a sailboat carried by a chopper before. It was interesting that the boat stayed beam to the wind. Maybe the straps had something to do with that or maybe the rudder was set to create that. I half expected to see the boat either spinning or bow into the wind.
04-24-2012 09:29 AM
smurphny
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

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This horrible accident and the Costa Concordia were highly preventable and are poignant reminders that sea-room is our friend and a safe buffer and a " get out of jail card"....
Areas known for normally rough conditions like the Farallons, islands, reefs and such landmarks should not be construed as a "bouy" for the rounding....
Touring or sightseeing or racing, fishing, photography,towing a inner-tube, etc,etc. belong together as leisure or touring activities....activities that if done while navigating a boat (itself often a leisure activity) should always be viewed as a bonus, but never the primary objective... which is ,of course, safe operation of the vessel at all times...
There are a lot of Regattas that use islands and land points as marks. Maybe planners of these events should set marks well away from any potential danger area where captains would be tempted to increase risk to gain a few seconds. Floating marks or stationary boats, even GPS points could easily be substituted for rocky shorelines or dangerous reefs.
04-24-2012 05:52 AM
souljour2000
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

This horrible accident and the Costa Concordia were highly preventable and are poignant reminders that sea-room is our friend and a safe buffer and a " get out of jail card"....
Areas known for normally rough conditions like the Farallons, islands, reefs and such landmarks should not be construed as a "bouy" for the rounding....
Touring or sightseeing or racing, fishing, photography,towing a inner-tube, etc,etc. belong together as leisure or touring activities....activities that if done while navigating a boat (itself often a leisure activity) should always be viewed as a bonus, but never the primary objective... which is ,of course, safe operation of the vessel at all times...
04-24-2012 03:07 AM
shadowraiths
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

Anatomy of a Farallon Islands yachting tragedy
04-24-2012 02:59 AM
overbored
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

they have recover the boat
Wrecked Yacht Salvaged From Rocks | NBC Bay Area
04-24-2012 02:58 AM
overbored
Re: One dead, four missing in Farallones sailboat race

Alexis Busch Memorial To Be Held at AT&T Park
Alexis Busch Memorial To Be Held at AT&T Park | NBC Bay Area
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