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04-22-2012 02:07 PM
Minnewaska
Re: I think they are trying to break the "routine"!

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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
According to the AC site, the 72's will be used for the Louis Vuitton Cup, 04 July – 1 September 2013 and America’s Cup Match (Finals): 7-22 September 2013. Both in SF
I can assure you they are training to AVOID pitch poling. If you've seen the video of Coutts falling through the wing of a 45 in SF, you know it's no joke. He gave up the helm position shortly thereafter. Coincidence?
Obviously, pitchpoling a 72 could be catastrophic. A fall from the upended hull alone could be over 5 stories (IF the sailor is lucky enough to hit the water)!
I'm sure they are training to avoid accidents, I would.

However, no one in Nascar gave up the helm after Earnhart hit the wall. I'm not a Nascar fan, but I'm just saying there is an attraction to danger.

I still don't get the switch from 45s to 72s. For all practical purposes, they trained all year on a different boat that will have little relevance to the big show. They will jump aboard the new ship and race it for the last two months of the season.

Is it money? They do damage the 45s often. That would be interesting, if even these guys are on a budget.
04-22-2012 02:03 PM
Minnewaska
Re: In Newport July 1

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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
NBC will be taking over the coverage as of July 1 in Newport. Here is the scheule:America's Cup | North America
Not sure why they are only racing one day in Newport, but I'm sure the website explains it somewhere.
I believe the finals are being televised on the 1st, but the races will be going on the entire week prior.
04-22-2012 01:48 PM
L124C
I think they are trying to break the "routine"!

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
What is that all about anyway? Prelim races on a 45 and the AC on a 72? If I'm not mistaken, the 72s won't ever race until the event itself.
I will say that if they get a routine going of pitchpoling these things in most races, viewership will return. People like a good wreck. Almost as good, crew being blown or thrown off the boat and recovered by chase boats. It's like a skier wiping out and still getting up.
However, these are not what the AC is about. It will be interesting to see if they even care about viewership. The wealthy competitors don't, IMHO. Never did. Its more personal.
According to the AC site, the 72's will be used for the Louis Vuitton Cup, 04 July – 1 September 2013 and America’s Cup Match (Finals): 7-22 September 2013. Both in SF
I can assure you they are training to AVOID pitch poling. If you've seen the video of Coutts falling through the wing of a 45 in SF, you know it's no joke. He gave up the helm position shortly thereafter. Coincidence?
Obviously, pitchpoling a 72 could be catastrophic. A fall from the upended hull alone could be over 5 stories (IF the sailor is lucky enough to hit the water)!
04-22-2012 01:17 PM
L124C
In Newport July 1

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
I'm told that NBC will broadcast the Newport AC World Series this year. If you get some pitchpoling, crew tossed in the water, etc, there might be hope for the viewership. Many viewers watch for the crash.

However, even with high winds, I don't see waves high enough in East Passage to cause trouble. You will easily see this race from shore. The course, I'm told, will be between Castle Hill and the bridge.
NBC will be taking over the coverage as of July 1 in Newport. Here is the scheule:America's Cup | North America
Not sure why they are only racing one day in Newport, but I'm sure the website explains it somewhere.
04-22-2012 07:58 AM
goboatingnow
Re: America's Cup - anyone else interested?

The Volvo Ocean Race is much more interesting
04-22-2012 07:51 AM
Minnewaska
Re: America's Cup - anyone else interested?

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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
And THOSE are the trainers! Wait till they bring out the big guns later this year!
What is that all about anyway? Prelim races on a 45 and the AC on a 72? If I'm not mistaken, the 72s won't ever race until the event itself.

I will say that if they get a routine going of pitchpoling these things in most races, viewership will return. People like a good wreck. Almost as good, crew being blown or thrown off the boat and recovered by chase boats. It's like a skier wiping out and still getting up.

However, these are not what the AC is about. It will be interesting to see if they even care about viewership. The wealthy competitors don't, IMHO. Never did. Its more personal.
04-22-2012 03:19 AM
L124C
Re: America's Cup - anyone else interested?

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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
I watched the races in Naples on YouTube. The boats, graphics, production value, and technology is absolutely awesome - but the racing just isn't that exciting.
But then...some of us have higher thresholds for excitement than others Smack!
04-22-2012 03:03 AM
L124C
Re: America's Cup - anyone else interested?

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Originally Posted by mksailnet View Post
Are you referring to the wave-piercing bows on the hulls?

You evidently haven't looked at a new beach cat design--many of the hot boats have hulls like that!

I am looking forward to watching the America's Cup in catamarans, but if any race happens to take place on a good sailing day I will record it and watch it later!
The theory is that the decreased volume on top of the hull gives it a fighting chance of avoiding a pitch pole, with more volume on bottom pushing the hull back to the surface. However, so far they have experienced several, including one in Naples.
04-21-2012 12:31 PM
L124C
Re: America's Cup - anyone else interested?

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Originally Posted by Cherp View Post
Changed my mind. Just watched it on the link. Plenty of razzle dazzle there. Quite exciting.
And THOSE are the trainers! Wait till they bring out the big guns later this year!
04-20-2012 10:39 PM
smackdaddy
Re: America's Cup - anyone else interested?

I watched the races in Naples on YouTube. The boats, graphics, production value, and technology is absolutely awesome - but the racing just isn't that exciting.
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