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05-03-2012 07:53 PM
tommays
Re: Help...Relocating stands



Around here 7 is the normal amount for 30' boat



The 7th bow stand is how the movers get under the boat to pick it up and while it use to make me pretty nervous IF the keel is well blocked the stands are just balancing the boat and there should be no significant load on any single stand

Go at it slow and if the boat is et up right you should be able to lower one stand at a time without and movement IF this is NOT the case STOP

I ALWAYS leave the chains between a set of stands when i am moving them just in case and never move the stand more than a tiny bit away from the hull
05-03-2012 03:27 PM
patrscoe
Re: Help...Relocating stands

Kind of what I did. I hired a person I know that is currently out of work and has good knowledge of construction and sailboats. He is doing all the fun work like sanding and sanding and sanding....
Yes, that is what the Boat Yard owner kept on saying, weather is delaying the start of the work for the last three months but I don't necessarily agree with him. Anyways, I felt like I am bashing them online and I don't want to do that, not really fair and respectable. Perhaps he sees me as a out-of-towner and knows I will be gone soon.

Thanks for all your help!
05-03-2012 02:19 PM
Barquito
Re: Help...Relocating stands

Maybe if they don't have the right people, the yard would be willing to let you hire outside help? Maybe even experienced SN'ers from the area?
05-03-2012 02:19 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Help...Relocating stands

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Originally Posted by patrscoe View Post
....I ask for other services (minor work), he agrees but nothing gets done so I can't really rely on them for much of anything......
Whether competent or not, this has been my experience in 100% of the marinas I've ever dealt with. I realize they are in a somewhat weather dependent business and that messes with scheduling. However, simply forgetting or insisting on using a single vendor that is overbooked or always greasing the squeaky wheels is usually the problem.

I drop my yard manager (who I actually like quite a bit) an email every couple of days to follow up on what was committed by then. The pattern is 100% tested...... if I hear back from him immediately, they did the work. If I don't, they haven't. I sent a note yesterday morning that has gone unaddressed since. Work was scheduled for Tuesday, so I sent a note on Wed. Not looking good.
05-03-2012 02:01 PM
patrscoe
Re: Help...Relocating stands

Long and short of it, we sold our previous sailboat and purchased this one late last fall and was unable to sail her to our marina so I put her on the hard there and decided to get the bottom completed and other misc work since our sail would be about 100 miles. The yard is small and I am finding out quickly, very limited. They were going to complete the bottom work but after months of no work being performed, I decided to take it on myself. I ask for other services (minor work), he agrees but nothing gets done so I can't really rely on them for much of anything. Unfortunate because I am really busy with work and family activities. Just want to get this work done, splash and move on to our marina.
05-03-2012 01:28 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Help...Relocating stands

I've been aboard boats on the hard that had improperly placed or perhaps too few stands where doors wouldn't open they were so twisted. Of course, the majority of the weight is on the keel, but depending on the boat, stand placement matters.

Like I said, you could be fine for a short period of time with little stress.
05-03-2012 01:27 PM
RobGallagher
Re: Help...Relocating stands

Adding another set of stands is the best plan of attack.

If another set is not available:

Before moving a stand, first loosen the chain connecting the two stand by just enough links to move it, then re-attach the chain BEFORE sliding the stand over.

Never move more than one stand at a time, alternating sides.

This will STOP the boat from FALLING.

AGAIN, do not move a stand if the chain is NOT ATTACHED.

**Darwin award nominees for the spring of 2012 please disregard.
05-03-2012 01:24 PM
sailingfool
Re: Help...Relocating stands

You are asking questions about a process that could hurt you or others if you screw it up.
Having done this myself, once, my advice is to pay the yard to re-block the boat when you are ready...that will also allow you to get under the keel where the current blocks are...
05-03-2012 01:23 PM
Faster
Re: Help...Relocating stands

Odd... many yards don't allow you to move your own stands. In the last yard we used moving the stands to paint patches was part of the service.

Strange that your yard isn't interested in this getting done safely...
05-03-2012 01:19 PM
Squidd
Re: Help...Relocating stands

I disagree.. Most of the weight is sitting on the keel blocked to the ground.. stands are more for balancing the boat and usually placed so they don't interfere with the "strapping" rather than bulkhead considerations.. ...for the short time you switch back and forth they should not cause any "depressions" in the hull...
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