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Interesting Sailboats

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Sirius 32, Sirius 35

THE OBJECT OF THIS THREAD:

Interesting sailboats in production and available on the new boat market (only boats with modern designs, meaning that the boats still in production but made with old designs are out). Recent designs out of production are also admissible.

Modern boat designs and modern one off, if interesting.

Classical boats and traditional boats.

Small cruisers (less than 35ft)

Seezunge 27ft: PG1-PT9

Hanse 325: PG19-PT185;

Presto 30 : 33-326; 33-327; 34-331; 34-333; 55-543; 55-544;

Tess Yachts: 37-366; 38-373;

Tess 28 Magnum: 37-369; 38-371;

Delphia 28: 38-373;

Vancouver 27/28 : 42-412; 72-717;

Cruisers between 35ft and 49ft


Catalina 355 : 31-306;

RM sailboats: PG5-PT41; 5-42

RM1050: PG5-PT46; 5-47; 5-48;

RM 1060: PG8-PT77; 8-78; 8-79; 8-80; 9-81; 30-295; 40-400; 79-786;

RM 1200: PG9-PT84; 9-85; 19-184; 20-191; 20-192; 41-404; 42-414; 42-418; 43-425; 43-426; 69-688;

RM 1350: PG9-PT82; 55-549; 95-943;

Morris Yachts: PG7-PT61

Bavaria 36: PG19-PT188; 19-190; 20-196;

Bavaria 40: PG10-PT95; 28-278; 29-281; 29-282; 29-283; 29-286; 32-316; 36-356; 51-502; 51-507; 52-518; 53-527; 53-532;

Bavaria 40s: 69-685; 78-775;

Bavaria 45: PG10-PT96; 19-190;

Rustler Yachts: PG11-PT104;

Jeanneau 409: PG11-PT103: 11-106; 30-298; 30-299; 36-356; 51-502; 51-504; 51-505; 51-509; 52-513; 52-514; 52-515; 52-516; 53-527; 54-532; 57-564; 57-570; 58-571; 58-580; 59-581; 59-583; 59-585; 62-614; 74-739; 91-906;

Jeanneau 439: 40-396; 40-397; 59-584; 59-585; 96-956;

Hanse Yachts: 16-154; 16-156; 16-158;

Hanse 400: 81-804;

Bluewater cruising yachts: 21-206

Beneteau Oceanis 37 : 31-306; 31-308; 31-309; 32-314; 55-541;

XC 38: 36-356; 96-954;

Diva 38: 39-386;

Diva 35: 40-391;

Dufour 405: 62-614;

Defline 43: 63-622

Walkabout 43: 93-923; 93-925; 93-927;

Small performance cruisers (less than 35ft)


Performance 32ft test: 29-87;

Sun Fast 3200: PG4-PT33; 4-34; 4-36; 30-293;

Elan 210: 70-691; 70-696; 78-779; 79-781;

Elan 310: PC7-PT64; 7-69; 8-71; 36-356; 41-408;

Quest 33: PG7-PT62

Olea 32: 25-243; 25-245;

First 27.7: 38-373; 38-380; 39-382;

First 30: 30-295; 39-356; 41-408; 55-545; 55-546;

Comet 26: 34-340; 35-345; 35-350; 36-353;

Pacer 30: 36-357;

Django 7.7: 40-399;

Vivace/Evosion 34: 45-442; 45-446; 45-445; 45-446; 45-447; 45-448; 45-449; 45-450; 46-458; 46-460;

Finn Flyer 34: 46-451; 46-453; 60-593;

Salona 34: 46-457;

Heol 7.4: 63-621; 63-622;

Azuree 33: 87-867; 91-902; 91-904;

JPK 10.10: 88-877 ; 88-880; 89-883;

Performance cruisers (between 35ft and 49ft)

Pogo 10.50: PG2-PT20; 3-27; 3-28; 3-30; 4-35; 5-50; 6-51; 6-52; 6-60; 11-101; 11-107; 11-110; 43-425; 44-440; 87-861; 87-867;

Pogo 12.50: PG13-PT125; 20-198; 20-199; 22-214; 27-264; 27-265; 27-269; 32-317; 32-319; 43-425; 43-426; 43-428; 44-432; 44-437; 44-439; 55-546; 55-547; 82-812; 84-831; 87-870;

Este 40: 89-890; 90-893; 90-899;

A35: PG5-PT42; 5-44; 66-660;

A40RC: 92-914;

Hammerhead 35: 64-645

Opium 39: PG5-PT42; 9-85; 9-89; 13-125; 22-220; 22-221; 43-426; 55-547; 86-857;

Aerodyne 35: PG7-PT62

Elan 350: PG7-PT64; 13-24; 13-126; 13-127; 13-128; 14-132; 18-178; 26-255; 36-356; 40-398; 41-405; 57-564; 59-589; 60-591; 72-711; 73-724; 74-738;

Elan 380: 23-223; 25-249; 26-256; 40-398; 59-589; 97-962;

Elan 410: 32-316; 79-784;

JPK 110: PG9-PT85; 10-91

Olea 44: PG10-PT100; 27-268;

Olea Yachts: 25-247;

Dufour 40e: Pg13-Pt125; 32-316; 55-547; 56-558; 56-559; 57-561; 57-562; 57-563; 59-586; 59-588,

Salona 37: 36-359; 41-406;

Salona 41: PG15-PT141; 15-145; 32-316; 36-356; 40-398; 54-538; 57-569; 78-778; 80-796; 80-798; 97-965;

Salona 42: PG15-PT145; 36-359; 40-398; 93-929; 94-932;

Cigale 16: PG15-PT148; 16-152; 17-161; 55-549; 63-625;

Cigale 14: PG17-PT163; 55-549;

Santa Cruz 43: PG17-PT169

Sydney Yachts: PG18-PT171; 18-175;

Sydney GTS 37: 43-423;

Sydney GTS 43: PG18-PT173;

Winner 12.20: PG20-193;

First 40: 31-304; 32-313; 32-316; 35-344; 36-354; 55-546; 55-547;

First 35: 36-356

Dehler 41: 30-296;

Dehler 44: 79-785;

Dehler 45: 36-356; 79-785;

Luffe 40.04: 30-300; 31-301; 31-303;

XP 38: 56-533; 56-544; 56-555; 67-622;

XP 44: 33-325;

Pacer 430: 36-357;

Pacer 376: 36-357; 66-652; 69-683;

Faurby 424: 36-360; 37-361; 37-363; 37-365;

Comfortina 39: 40-395;

J 133: 43-426; 63-620

J 111: 100-993;

Maxi 11: 99-982;

Arcona yachts: 46-456;

Arcona 410: 47-467; 47-468; 47-469; 48-471;

Arcona 430: 48-472;

Arcona 460: 50-495

Finngulf yachts: 46-456;

Varianta 44: 60-594; 60-595; 60-596; 60-597; 60-598; 64-639;

Imagine 53: 63-628;

Zou 40.2: 63-620

Ker 39: 68-676;

Finn-Flyer 42: 77-762;

Azuree 40: 85-842;

Loft 40: 85-848; 85-852;

Vivace 35: 90-895;

Sailing boats over 49ft

Zeydon 60 : PG 12-119;

JP 54: PG18-PT172;

Salona 60: 70-695;

Stadships: PG20-PT193; 20-195;

Pogo 50: 32-318; 32-319;

X-50: 54-537;

Murtic 52: 54-537;

Decksaloons and pilot house sailing boats

Sirius 32: PG1-PT1

Sirius 35: PG1-PT1; 1-10; 2-18; 50-491; 50-492; 60-559; 60-599;

Sirius 31: PG1-PT5; 2-17; 36-356;

Regina 35: 48-478;

Regina 40: PG11-PT104; 49-481; 49-483;

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Luffe 43DS: PG12-PT111; 12-115; 50-494;

Noordkaper 40: PG14-pt139;

Noordkaper yachts: PG16-PT155

Nordship 36: 30-297; 49-482;

Nordship 38: 49-482; 49-490;

Paulo's pilot house I: 38-376; 39-381; 39-383; 39-384;

Paulo's pilot house II: 69-682

Lyman & Morse 45: 38-379;

CR 38DS: 48-477; 48-478;

CR 40DS: 48-476; 48-478; 48-479; 50-494; 50-496; 50-497; 50-498;

Arcona 40DS: 50-494;

Racers

Figaro 2:pG4-PT36; 4-37; 5-42; 6-52; 6-53; 6-55; 6-56

VOR 70: PG16-PT160; 17-187

Farr 400: 67-661

Soto 40: 96-952;

Lifting keel/centerboarder

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Allures 45: PG10-PT93; 100-996;

Allures yachts: 25-248;

OVNI 425: 23-228;

OVNI 395 : 68-679; 69-690;

J 108: 67-661

Atlantic 43: 68-67

Boreal 44: 97-970; 98-974;

Multihulls till 34ft

Several Trimarans: 28-273;

Multihulls with 34ft and over

Dragonfly yachts: 26-257;

Dragonfly 35: 26-258; 27-261; 27-262;

Dragonfly 1200: 56-551;

Corsair 37: 28-276;

Farrier 39: 28-277;

Challenge 37: 28-278

Hammerhead 34: 29-385;

Hammerhead 54: 29-288; 30-292;

Trimax 10.80: 29-285;

Sig 45: 54-534; 54-539; 54-540;

Gunboat: 56-551

Fusion: 56-551;

Outremer: 56-551;

Tournier: 56-511;

Classical and Traditional boats

Jclass boats: 54-537;

Tofinou 12: 71-703;

Folck boat: 73-727;

Puffin Yachts: PG14-PT135; 14-138; 16-155;

Bestwind 50: PG12-PT116; 14-123;

Bestevaer 53: PG12-PT116;

Bestevaer yachts: PG16-PT155

Cape George 36: 41-410; 42-412;

Marieholm 33 : 42-412;

This list is not actualized. Please use the advanced search engine of the thread with the name of the model and builder. It works, most of the time.

(actualized till PG100) and it will be no more because that gives a lot of work (500 pages now).

Instead I am actualizing the titles and with the right title the thread search engine (not the one on the top of the page bit the one much below that says search thread) on its advanced option works quite well.

Hello,

Melrna posts on Miami Boat show and the comments of Smackdady about the interest of that thread lead me to think that perhaps I could share more information about sailboats I know and find interesting.

I am interested in boat design (interior and sailing performance) and I go each year at least to one of the main European Boat shows and that means basically Dusseldorf, Paris or Hamburg. On these shows you have the opportunity not only to visit the boats of the main and medium size builders but you have also the opportunity to visit the boats of small and sometime family shipyards.

Normally they build very good sailboats and sometimes they have been doing that for decades. The boats are hugely appreciated by their faithful customers but because they don't advertise their boats and there are very few on the used boat market, they pass unnoticed by the majority of the sail community.

The visit to these boats is a very rewarding experience because they are made with passion by true boat lovers and because when you talk to the guy that is on the boat, you are not talking with a dealer, that many times doesn't know much about boats, but with the builder, or the designer.

Even if you are not a buyer they will have real pleasure in talking with someone that really appreciates and understands their work. Those guys really believe in what they are doing and they do it the best way they can, no matter the cost. In a word, they are in love with what they are doing.
Of course, these boats have to be expensive.

This thread will be mainly about these boats, as a way of letting you know about these gems. Let's see if you are interested. I will not post much. If you want to know more you have just to participate and make questions.

The first one it will be the "Sirius". I have had the pleasure to visit several times their boats and to talk with the builders (father and son).

These boats have the best interiors you can find, or at least that I have seen. Not only the quality, but the design and ergonomy are fantastic. You really won't believe you are in a 32ft boat. Just incredible and amazing; Have a look at it:

Sirius-Werft Plön | Forecabin | 32 DS for 2 forecabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Owner´s cabin | 32 DS 4-berth comfort owner´s cabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Workshop | 32 DS for 2 workshop

Now that the son is in charge they have modernized the outside look of the new boats, they look fantastic not only inside but also outside. The boats sail well and they have clients as far as Japan.

Sirius-Werft Plön | Versions of decks house | You have the choice

Another interesting point is the way they develop new boats. They work with the clients to collect suggestions on the shape and design of the boats. A truly interesting affair, between passionate clients and passionate builders.

Sirius-Werft Plön | 35 DS | Philosophy

Take a good look at their interesting site and if you find the boat interesting, please let me know, I can add some information.

Sirius-Werft Plön | english | Welcome at website of Sirius-Werft Plön

Regards

Paulo
 
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#2,506 ·
Hi Paulo,

While we´re talking about Bergström & Ridder designed boats, you might want to check out the Route 66:
ROUTE 66
and the B&R 23:
Torkel Båtar - B&R 23

//MrW
Nice boats but a bit dated especially the Route 66.

Regarding Nordic boats that are one that I love and never posted about, the Landmark 43, a Mark Mills design and a beautiful boat:











http://www.landmarkyachts.com/Customers/landmarkyachts/documents/dokumenter/CL_43_202_DP.pdf

http://www.landmarkyachts.com/Customers/landmarkyachts/documents/dokumenter/CL_43_202_SP.pdf

Mills says about the boat:

Mills Design Ltd. is very proud of the Landmark 43, our latest high performance IRC Cruiser/Racer. This design builds on our unparalleled experience with winning dual purpose IRC designs both custom and production to offer true performance cruising comfort and outstanding results on the racecourse.

This design reflects not only our devotion to high performance design, but also our aesthetic drive to create dynamic high performance yachts of stunning visual appeal.

The hull has been drawn to offer the highest performance across the widest set of conditions compatible with production yacht weight controls and suitable interior volume for a performance Cruiser/Racer….

The waterline length has been set to extract some benefit from IRC's treatment of overhangs, particularly aft, without going to the extremes of a custom racing design. This ensures a good balance of performance with positive rating attributes. The other performance factors comprise a fine entry for performance in a chop, a narrow waterline beam for reduced frontal drag, and a stern section with a flat run but not overly beamy sections to provide controllable speed offwind without an undue rise in wetted surface area for consistent pace in lighter conditions.

To achieve our weight targets the hull, deck, and interior construction are foam cored epoxy/E-glass laminates. This makes use of the higher materials properties of an epoxy laminate including greater stiffness and resistance to blistering…

The loads generated by the deep keel and bulb however are best met with an anodized alloy keel grid which offers the stiffest solution to static loadings as well as the best force distribution for unusual dynamic loadings such as a grounding…

The bright interior with 3 double cabins and large galley and nav station trimmed with wood is as comfortable for an extended family cruise as it is for racing around the buoys. The spacious head with access both from the forward cabin and the saloon ensures complete amenity.

Attention has been paid to light and ventilation below with careful hatch and portlight placement. In addition to the main hatch and foredeck hatch there are twin small hatches over the head and forward cabin spaces, and a square hatch in the coachroof centrally over the saloon. In the aft cabins there are opening portlights in the cockpit seat fronts.
…
Sail handling has been arranged with a shorthanded sailing in mind, with all halyards leading back to the cockpit and features items such as the batten slider system on the main and the roller furling jib which have been included in a manner that has minimal impact on the racing performance of the design while improving the shorthanded utility of the sail plan.
...
This design represents the next generation of IRC Performance Cruiser Racers, and reflects our commitment to creating beautiful, fast, and reliable performance yachts.

Key Dimensions

LOA 13.10 m
LWL 11.26 m
Beam 3.83 m
Draft 2.80 m
Displ 7650 kg
Sail Area Upwind 109,5 m2
Sail Area Downwind 271,5 m


Some movies:



 
#2,489 · (Edited)
Hi Paulo,

My sincere apologies for the Italian, won't happen again.

I remember now that we used the gennaker (a loaner, not mine) of the final stretch to our home port on delivery. We had about 6 knots of wind and we did 7-8 knots.



and indeed faster than the wind. :)

Thanks very much for the congratulations. I am wondering did make a decision about which boat you wanted to buy? And if so, what did you choose?

(apologies if I missed that somewhere here in the tread)

Regards, Eric
 

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#2,491 ·
Hi Eric! The Salona 38 would have been the boat I would have chosen if my money had not come a bit short.

There was some story about not paying VAT that did not went well (nothing to do with Salona but with a change in the EC law) and in the end after all being agreed, including some mods that they utilized later on the 35 and I think also now on the 38, I had not the money for the top specification Salona I wanted and even a standard 38 would be stretching too much my budget.

I opted for an used boat, a boat that in its design principles is not far away from a Salona. It is also a substantially more expensive boat when new and I would never give the extra money for a new one comparing with a Salona, but I found one from 2007 in very good condition at a fair price, a bit less than what I was to pay for the Salona 38 I wanted, I mean, without VAT:D

The boat is a Comet 41. I have already posted about it and you can see it here:

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/boat-...341-interesting-sailboats-225.html#post835284

I will only be the full owner of the boat at 18/6 and I will only be on the water a week later...but then I am going away for 4 months or so. I will leave this thread to the care of Mr G, Mr W, Chimbatete, Eric, Faster, Nemier and all that have been posting and enjoying this thread: I will be sailing and seldom will have internet so it is a bit like....I will be back in the winter:D

Regards

Paulo
 
#2,492 ·
Tnt 34

Motorcat, we all want to see that boat but not sailing slowly. He have already saw that. When you have a movie of that boat doing 18K or over please post it.

Why it is taking so much time. There are not decent wind around there?

Where is the TNT? That should be an explosive boat:D

Regards

Paulo
 
#2,493 ·
Hi Paulo,

The Comet 41 sure looks nice! and I see the resemblance on certain things, steel interiour frame, deep rudder, and overall lines of the hull. You'll have good fun and sailing on that one. Here in Holland we don't see too often a Comet.

I'm curious of what mods you proposed. I know that Salona is very eager to learn from experienced sailors to improve on the product (In contradiction to yards as Beneteau and others). Also I liked their flexibility in exchanging things for others within the package. Like I really wanted the Raymarine E7 plotter and not the Garmin one. They even asked me if I wanted extra 12V outlets in cabins, etc. Really stunning.

A four month trip! Wow, wish I had the time to do so.

Cheers, Eric
 
#2,494 · (Edited)
Hi Paulo,

The Comet 41 sure looks nice! and I see the resemblance on certain things, steel interiour frame, deep rudder, and overall lines of the hull. You'll have good fun and sailing on that one. Here in Holland we don't see too often a Comet.

I'm curious of what mods you proposed. I know that Salona is very eager to learn from experienced sailors to improve on the product (In contradiction to yards as Beneteau and others). Also I liked their flexibility in exchanging things for others within the package. Like I really wanted the Raymarine E7 plotter and not the Garmin one. They even asked me if I wanted extra 12V outlets in cabins, etc. Really stunning.

A four month trip! Wow, wish I had the time to do so.

Cheers, Eric
Yes, I wanted also that E7 also and not the standard version but one that would accept radar also. Not a problem with that or the other things. I talked directly with Nenad, the sales director that was more than eager to help and put me in contact with the design department for the more complicated things. I had posted already about that. I will make a resume:

About the Salona 38 and the modifications:

"I have been in contact with the guys from Salona for about a year, first about the 41 (that I charted for a week in the summer) and later about the 38. The 38 was released on the summer and I had the opportunity to sail the first boat in the water...

I loved it from the beginning and the boat has enough space for us, it is fast enough, easier to put and to take out of the marina and the sails are not as big as the ones on the 41, making an easier boat to sail solo, not to mention, a less expensive one.

Basically I had already decided it would be a Salona because between the affordable fast and light boats this is probably the stronger, with its stainless steel grid to take the keel and the shroud efforts and with with an optional all vinilester/epoxy hull. The boat has also waterproof bulkheads aft and at the bow, and because Salona is the only affordable production shipyard that will modify their boats to meet my needs in all that it is possible and that was really a lot

For example, I wanted a boat less pointed to cruising and racing, but more pointing to a fast cruising boat with offshore good qualities, a very stiff boat that could sail well upwind without having guys on the side.

Not that the boat has a bad stability. It has already a good Ballast/displacement ratio for this type of keel and draft and a comparative good one if compared with most cruising boats of this size, but I wanted more:

I wanted to substitute the keel they have in the boat by an heavier and better performance one, one that was not designed for the best results on handicap racing, but for pure performance and that without adding much weight would give me a more powerful boat, specially in bad weather with a better reserve stability and a better AVS.


Well, it is done and at a price I do not found prohibitive.

I wanted a nice pole for the geenaker. I have discussed with them several models and they have already showed the preliminary drawings to me: A carbon one, the type Grand Soleil and x yachts are using that incorporates the anchor and bow roller. A nice design.

Done, and again at an affordable price.

I did not like the stow away cockpit table that was heavy and not very stable (the same type as on the 41). I talked to them and they said that they were going to look at it.

They have send me the designs: Nicely designed.

I complained about the instruments that were, like all boats that are also used for race, too far away, over the cabin entry. They have showed to me the available pods in the market: All ugly. They have said they were going to look at it. They have sent me the preliminar drawings (I have posted them already), nicely designed and I have no doubts, they will be well made.

I could go on for a long time, from permanent jack lines to places to hook the harness passing by lateral handgrabs on the spraywood, to a removable textile stay, to a Spade instead of their standard anchor, to a custom transom pole to the radar and a special support to carry the dingy on the transom, the list would be long not to mention the many options they have to customize the boat.

I guess they do that with clients that ask them things that actually can improve the boat, they do that to cruisers and they do that for racers too, but in this case in what regards pure performance and a faster and more competitive boat."

As you can see it was a lot of things. Many you can see already on the 35: The spy pole, the table, the instrument pods, the type of keel and probably also on the more recent 38, at least as options.



Others were too particular or expensive to make as options to a boat like the heavier keel (about 260/300kg more).

With that keel "my" boat would still be lighter than your boat, in fact it would use on a 2.25m keel the same ballast your's have on a 2.00m keel. It would be lighter some 300 to 400kg (epoxy hull) and would be a lot stiffer in medium to heavy winds being faster and able to carry more sail on those conditions. In fact the ballast ratio would be closer to the one on the Xp 38 or Grand Soleil 39, boats that have the name type of hulls. All that of course would come with a price making it more expensive but even so a lot less expensive than other boats with similar specifications.

Regards

Paulo
 
#2,496 · (Edited)
Atlantic cup race:

Thanks Nemier:)

Now, I let this one pass unnoticed. Well, I was too busy following the the AG2R but this one is on your back yard, I mean considering that most of you are Americans:



These seems a very interesting race to me and that's the only one 40class race you have there. It is a duo crewed race with in port crewed races.

It started at eleven this month they have already finished the first leg and the second one will start in 2 days.







The winner of the first leg was the best sailor:D...not an American, not a French but a German one and I say the best because some months back he won the 40 class Transat...now won the next race, this one. May not be the best but it is becoming pretty difficult to beat Riechers, alone or with a partner.

I will be following this one;)

Race | Atlantic Cup 2012
 
#2,497 ·
New American boat: Motive 25

That is a very nice sports and eventually weekend cruiser coastal cat, a very modern one and I bet an incredibly fast one.

We can say that the boat is almost a copy of the Swedish Seacart 26, but when the copy announces only about half the weight:eek: things become very interesting. Of course it is an all Carbon boat.

They have also a small sister with 15ft. The project as a hole seems very interesting and the factory is equipped with some expensive tools for really up-today boat building.

A very interesting boat. I hope the boat will be a success;).



















They say about the boat:

The Motive 25R is the first carbon fiber, production trimaran in its class. Sleek, modern and performance oriented, the Motive 25R is designed for spirited day sailing and in-shore racing. Fast and simple, the Motive 25R offers race performance in a stable, easy to sail package. Whether your goal is to win races, day sail with friends or serious fun camping and raiding adventures (R is for Raid!), the Motive 25R offers a unique mix of features that make it the ultimate performance daysailer.

The M25R's lightweight carbon fiber construction, outer hull rudders, and modern length to beam ratio allow you to easily fly the center hull, reach speeds of 20+ knots and still accommodate up to six people. A thrill which must be experienced to be believed!

By combining modern, race inspired hull design with a boomless mainsail, roller furling headsails and easy trailering, the Motive 25R maximizes time on the water and shatters the notion that "fast boats must be complex".


PRINCIPLE DIMENSIONS

LENGTH OVERALL:
7.79 M
25.25 FT
BEAM: 6.48 M 21.25 FT
BEAM FOLDED: 2.54 M 8.33 FT
DISPLACEMENT: 397 KG:eek: 875 LBS
DRAFT CB UP: 0.15 M 0.50 FT
DRAFT CB DOWN: 1.37 M 4.50 FT
MAST LENGTH: 10.82 M 35.50 FT
MAINSAIL AREA: 22.11 M2 238 FT2
JIB AREA: 7.62 M2 82 FT2
SCREECHER AREA: 23.22 M2 250 FT2
AUX POWER (MAX): 5.00 HP 5.00 HP

397 kg to a sail area of about 30m2 upwind and a downwind sail area of more than 45m2 will make for an incredible sailing experience. I would like to try that one:D

...
 
#2,500 · (Edited)
Racing: ORCI

Some good changes on ORCI: Due to the high number of boats on the next ORCI world championship, that will take place in Finland (they have already 128 entries and more are coming) they will Split the faster boats, or what was till here the faster boats (class A).

Now only really fast boats will be able to contend for the main title, preventing that some older and slower boat with a good rating could win the series.

Competitors with a 2012 ORC GPH (General Purpose Handicap) rating of 614.9 sec/mile or less will race for the Class A World Championship title, and those with a 2012 GPH of greater than or equal to 615.0 sec/mi will race for the Class B World Championship title. At the current entry level of 128, this puts over 40 boats in Class A and over 80 boats in Class B - figures are not exact yet, as some teams listed their 2011 GPH figures in their entries.

CLASS SPLIT & NEW FORMAT FOR 2012 ORCi WORLDS

This is going to permit the much desired change in the rules regarding handicap not penalizing excessively the faster boats, promoting lighter boats and more stiff boats, boats with bigger righting moment.

This is a push in the right direction, allowing the better and faster sailing boats to win the races and put the designers and boat builders doing better and faster sailing boats, not just boats for a rating.

I think that the true objective is this one: For winning a top race you should need a top boat and a top team, not just an average boat with a good rating and a good team.

Plenty of other ORC races to compete with older and less performant boats, at least for the top prize. ORCI should be really for the best at least if they want any credibility as a world title.

It seems to me these guys are going in the good direction;)

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#2,507 ·
Beneteau: Sense line versus Oceanis lne

Yachting world has tested the Sense 55, the Oceanis 41, 45 qnd 48.



What they say in this movie confirms what French testers for French magazines had said, the Oceanis, particulatly the Finot/conq designed boats, sail better but the Vista 55 sails pretty well, without much heeling.

After reading the full test on the magazine I will post more about it, if they say more:D
 
#2,508 · (Edited)
Solo non stop circumnavigation on a 40ft mass production boat:

Tomasz Cichocky has finished without problems in 312 days its solo non-stop circumnavigation on a 40ft Delphia...and Jesus... not a word in English (except on the Delphia site) about that, not an English video on you tube...OK, I know the guy is Polish as the boat, but that is a pretty unusual feet taking in consideration that the "Captain" is an old salt, more than 50 year's old.

Well, it is done, sailnet is the first to report that in English. I wish to send congratulations to the Captain. Really that is a big seamanship feat, not only in what regards seaworthiness but also in what regards boat autonomy. It had been done before but very few have managed to do that on a mass production 40ft boat.

Chapeau to the Polish Captain and to Delphia;).







Yacht | Around The World Delphia Project

http://en.delphiayachts.pl/around-the-world-delphia-project

Cruise | Around The World Delphia Project

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#2,509 · (Edited)
Vor70

What a great race !!!:D

One thing makes me wonder: Why Abu Dhabi has not yet won a leg and has bad results on Ocean sailing? Groupama obviously has a problem sailing with weak winds and is the better boat with strong winds, but Abu Dhabi seems to sail well with strong and weak winds and as already won several in port races, so why are they not competitive offshore?

WE HAVE A RACE!!! with Telefónica losing big time to Groupama and Camper and Puma winning over Telefónica and staying very close.

This race looks like it is going to be exciting till the finish;)

 
#2,512 · (Edited)
Aventura 43 (and 28)

Indigo yachts is one of the small French shipyards that makes very interesting boats at a fair price. We have talked already about the Kerkena 6.1 and 7.6, small sportive coastal cruising monohulls, but Indigo yacht was already well known before for their interesting sportive cruising coastal catamarans.

One of their best sellers was the Aventura 28, a small cat that was not fat like the other small cruising cats and offer a good interior, good sailing performance and a nice price (77 000€ with VAT paid).











Then they made the Aventura 33...that I did not like. A bit like all the other fat cruising cats that I do not appreciate but now they propose the Aventura 43, an Offshore cat designed by Defline one of the most talented young French NAs.

The boat is not only very interesting, offering good sailing performances with a great interior space as it is also proposed at a good price for a non mass produced customized cat: 295 000€























NA : Martin DEFLINE

LH : 13.20 m
Beam : 7.00 m
Light weight : 8300 Kg
Weight at Max load : 12400 Kg
Draft : 0.40 m
upwind sail: 99.3 m2
Spi Asy : 117.2 m2
Water : 600 L
Fuel : 561 L

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#2,526 ·
Re: Aventura 43 (and 28)

Then they made the Aventura 33...that I did not like. A bit like all the other fat cruising cats that I do not appreciate but now they propose the Aventura 43, an Offshore cat designed by Defline one of the most talented young French NAs.
I read a boat review of the Aventura 33 a year ago or so, and it apparently was not a very fast boat. Sure hope the new 43 is faster!

//Mr W
 
#2,516 ·
Vor 70

No wind on the start and no wind on the next 24 to 36 hours but then:

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Despite a light start to the 3,590 nautical mile transatlantic leg, gale force winds with gusts in excess of 45 knots await the fleet off shore, where Tropical Storm Alberto is lying in wait off the east coast of the United States.

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Read reckons the first 24 to 48 hours of racing will prove critical, and set up a scenario where the early leaders could escape.

"We're going to have south easterlies today and a little transition to get to the west and north westerlies around that little low up there," he said. "I think the first person through that transition will have a really great jump, so yeah, this first 24, 48 hours are really critical I think in this leg."

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Leg 7 is expected to take around 11 days to complete.
 
#2,517 ·
Yesterday race and the start of leg 7 was interesting to say the least. Not much wind today for the start. Slow one. In the replay I can see my boat and I in the spectator fleet. Interesting that the power boaters outnumber the sailboaters 15:1 at least. They keep moving the marker buoys around so it was hard in the beginning to get a good spot without getting yelled at all the time. All I can say is go PUMA. Meet Ken Reed the other day and had a nice chat with him. Got him out of sail changing duties. Takes 6 guys to lift their sails on and off the boat. And these are big boys, Yummy! . Have pics but cannot seem to load them. I won't make Lisbon Paulo. Great city though. I was there about 3 years ago and almost meet up with Alex. Saw his boat there in the marina in Calais
( I think I got that right).
 
#2,518 ·
Vor 70

... I won't make Lisbon Paulo. Great city though. I was there about 3 years ago and almost meet up with Alex. Saw his boat there in the marina in Calais
( I think I got that right).
Too bad:(. Thanks about Lisbon. I guess you mean Cascais: A small city on a bay and the place where the Tejo river meets the sea. That's the local where sail racing normally takes place. There is a marina there.

Regards

Paulo
 
#2,519 ·
VOR Transat

First hand of this play is to Groupama or should I say Cammas since this was entirely a strategic play:

Groupama, alone chose a different course and it seems to me that he chose the right course. He is blasting away from all other boats doing over 20k and looking for big winds and stormy seas.

If they can keep the boat in one piece in 12 hours the difference for the second (Puma) would be much more than the 9K they have already. That is assuming that weather and wind information is true and it was not always the case on this race:D

At its centre, Alberto holds gale-force winds of 35 knots but the teams will likely try to exploit the lesser, more favourable breeze further from the eye of the storm that could catapult them across the Atlantic.

Volvo Ocean Race 2011-2012 | Race Data Center
 
#2,522 ·
Re: VOR Transat

First hand of this play is to Groupama or should I say Cammas since this was entirely a strategic play:

Groupama, alone chose a different course and it seems to me that he chose the right course. He is blasting away from all other boats doing over 20k and looking for big winds and stormy seas.

If they can keep the boat in one piece in 12 hours the difference for the second (Puma) would be much more than the 9K they have already. That is assuming that weather and wind information is true and it was not always the case on this race:D

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Volvo Ocean Race 2011-2012 | Race Data Center
Well, it is good to be right:D

Puma lost almost 20Nm on 6 hours to Groupama and is going to loss more on the next hours, I would say.

Unless the weather chart is not right I don't understand Puma strategy. The pack, after having hesitated followed Groupama course and it seems a better one than the one Puma is following.

Volvo Ocean Race 2011-2012 | Race Data Center
 
#2,520 · (Edited)
Bandit 800 and 870

Since we were talking about small interesting small cruising boats, these two versions of the same boat have certainly their place here: The 800, the older version and the 870 the newer one.

The boat is transportable, it is foldable and very seaworthy for its size. What a nice way for a couple to do coastal cruising and have fun sailing:

The 800:


Trimaran de croisière rapide Bandit 800 por MULTIDO


Le trimaran Bandit 800 C.N. Multid'o por MULTIDO

And the new one, the 2012 Bandit 870:













 
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