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06-03-2012 11:49 AM
Tanley
Re: Boat shopping: round two

This is in your neck of the woods.

30 foot Bristol Sloop
06-03-2012 08:41 AM
misfits
Re: Boat shopping: round two

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmcMaine View Post
Update:

My current shortlist in descending order of asking prices, none are out-of-state:

Sabre 28 - 14.6K - well cared for, updated electronics, wheel steering
3 Pearson 30s - 14.5K 11.9K 9.5K - varying condition and included equipment, the cheapest has best electronice, but looks a bit sketchy.
Catalina 27 - 8.9K - very nice condition, Atomic 4, but high priced for a C27
Tartan 27 - 8.3K - nice condition, A4 is a rebuilt with FWC
These are all good boats. I think the most important thing would be to buy as much boat that's in the most decent shape that you can afford. Owning a boat isn't always about going out. Hanging around the floating condo for a weekend isn't a bad thing. If you go with a boat that's to small for your family the thrill will be gone.

I wouldn't put alot of emphasis on electronics, there are more important components to be concerned with.

I'd be looking at the Sabre or Pearsons & remember cash is king. As you've stated these are the asking prices.

Good luck!

Bob
06-03-2012 01:31 AM
chrisncate
Re: Boat shopping: round two

You could always buy mine...

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/boat-b...nice-boat.html
06-02-2012 12:37 AM
asdf38
Re: Boat shopping: round two

Your options are wide but you could break down roughly like this:
Cheap <28' for 3-8k to get started and see if you love boating/ownership
Great <28' for 8-25k
Ok-Good >28' for 8-25k

I wouldn't bother with cheap larger boats as you'll still be paying lots for upkeep and storage/mooring. I'm curious that you said your attracted to older boats but passed on the triton. That seems like a prime option for what you're looking for. Granted you have a family but if that's the style you like don't necessarily discount that because other boats are more 'practical'. No boat is practical and it's going to require a lot of time so make sure you're getting one that you think is worth it.

EDIT: I wouldn't be worrying about the electronics as they're the easiest thing to change. Although I sympathize with you not knowing how to spot the big things as I was there myself. Engine and deck core - although there are many important things problems here are rampant in the types of boat's you're looking at. Also, get a survey even if you don't think the sale price justifies it. The first time you're out with your family and conditions aren't too good you'll want to know the condition of the boat underneath you.
05-31-2012 12:39 PM
dmcMaine
Re: Boat shopping: round two

Update:

My current shortlist in descending order of asking prices, none are out-of-state:

Sabre 28 - 14.6K - well cared for, updated electronics, wheel steering
3 Pearson 30s - 14.5K 11.9K 9.5K - varying condition and included equipment, the cheapest has best electronice, but looks a bit sketchy.
Catalina 27 - 8.9K - very nice condition, Atomic 4, but high priced for a C27
Tartan 27 - 8.3K - nice condition, A4 is a rebuilt with FWC
All of the above have Yachtworld listings.

-- Also there is a Tartan 30 as part of a charity auction in a week. Pictures are promising. No electronics beyond compass/depthfinder. The auction description lists only one actual problem - no holding tank installed currently. Don't know if I'm comfortable with the risk of auction. With no real chance to have a survey done I could be stuck with a real project.

Any thoughts? I plan to crawl through them all in the next week or so. It looks like right now the Sabre, and Cat are probably in the best overall condition. With the Tartan and a P30 not far behind.

I'm tempted by the deal potential of the auction boat, but the risk of a huge project is there.
05-25-2012 07:15 PM
arf145
Re: Boat shopping: round two

"Pretty" vs. "functional" does pretty much divide up what needs to be done on a boat you already own. Make sure it is safe and functional and go sailing.

Then again, when you're buying a boat, you do care about the cosmetic because it's directly related to the worth of the boat--no sense in paying more than the boat's worth at that moment, right?

One good thing about a boat that is in nice cosmetic condition is that this is frequently (not always) a good indicator of the condition of all that functional and safety stuff.

I found it hard to compartmentalize cosmetic from function when it comes to maintaining a boat. The more things I fixed, the more I wanted my boat to be as nice as I could make her (within reason ). Not everyone goes this way, or needs to, though I think you'll find many like souls here.
05-25-2012 03:37 PM
dmcMaine
Re: Boat shopping: round two

Tartan 27, a little too snug?
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1965.../United-States

Oh and what about a Tartan 34? Too big?

1972 Tartan K/CB Sloop Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
05-25-2012 02:08 PM
dmcMaine
Re: Boat shopping: round two

Quote:
Originally Posted by PalmettoSailor View Post
Remember that condition is everything when buying a used boat so buy the best boat you find that fits your parameters. Its usually going to cheaper to pay a bit more for the pristine example than to bring a fixer-upper up to snuff.
And there is the next question.

In looking at boats I'm finding that often I'm unsure about what I'm looking at. Is this item a 'fix-it-now' item, a 'keep-an-eye-on-it' item, or something purely cosmetic? I've read all of the boat inspection guides on the forums here. There are some obvious things. At the same time, I don't have a good basis for understanding how serious a certain problem is, or even if it is a problem at all.

As an aside, last night my sailing class started. Me, two other students, and an instructor on an old 23' Sea Sprite (SailMaine adult class out of Portland Yacht Services if anyone cares. ). We had a fine time, overcast with a light breeze 8kts or so; almost nobody on the water. The fog began rolling in, and by the time we made it back to the mooring the visibility couldn't have been more than 200yds or so. The condition of the boat highlights my questions. As I looked at it, it seemed very run down. The wooden combings, and cockpit seats were in pretty rough shape. The rigging, and deck hardware seemed fine. Sails looked pretty old, but they worked fine for us.

But it did highlight the question of pretty vs. functional to me.
05-13-2012 10:09 AM
PalmettoSailor
Re: Boat shopping: round two

The Sabre 28 will be in your price range and you might even find a Sabre 30 at the high end of you range.

Also as previously suggested, the Catalina 30 is one of the most popular designs out there with tons of them sold. As a Catalina owner I know they also have an active owners group which is a valuable resource.

Remember that condition is everything when buying a used boat so buy the best boat you find that fits your parameters. Its usually going to cheaper to pay a bit more for the pristine example than to bring a fixer-upper up to snuff.
05-13-2012 09:30 AM
SkywalkerII
Re: Boat shopping: round two

I know of a nice C&C 34 for under 20k that's roomy, set up for single handing, nice PHRF racer, comfy cruiser. Fits a lot of needs.
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