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05-20-2012 10:41 AM
mdi
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

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Originally Posted by CaptainForce View Post
Maybe we were just lucky, but we always ended up with a one time move of our stuff from one boat to the neighboring boat.

I have had the same good fortune but the reason I think things like this work out well is to purchase a boat you know will be marketable when the time comes to sell.
05-19-2012 05:25 PM
CaptainForce
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

We've "upgraded" twice over the years and each time the new purchase was contingent upon the sale of the previous boat or the old boat was vacated by agreement upon the delivery of the new vessel. Maybe we were just lucky, but we always ended up with a one time move of our stuff from one boat to the neighboring boat.
05-16-2012 08:13 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

I would be reluctant to upgrade, if I was expecting to sell the boat. I would, however, be sure that repair was done to worn out items. This is especially the case for obvious aesthetics. As DRF said above, it tells a story to the new buyer about how well you took care of things that may not be as obvious. Worn out, broken, duck taped, jerry rigged, (fugly I think you said) etc and I start to wonder if you ever changed the oil.

As far as owning two at once. Avoid it at all cost. Rent if you have to between boats. You will have no way to know if both vessels in your fleet end up required huge repairs at once. The boat you haven't sold may require them upon survey of the new prospective owner. Rent is cheap by comparison.
05-15-2012 06:53 PM
shadowraiths
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

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If you are on a budget, keep the upgrades to a minimum and with the thought of transferring them over to the big boat.
Yup, this is exactly the way I have been approaching it. Btw, just got a materials quote from my friend, and I can cover all the cushions and make a new mainsail cover for just under $400. And of course, some elbow sewing grease, so to speak. Also, since I'll have the shop available, cutting the patterns will be a breeze (i.e., plenty of room to lay everything out).

Wrt the marina? You and the missus are more than welcome to drop by to say "hi." Will pm the gate/slip.
05-15-2012 02:08 PM
GeorgeB
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

Shadow, I think we are in the same marina. You have quite a dilemma, moving “up” to even a C30 would be a vast improvement in livability. For me, the 27 is too much like car camping to do on the long term (Mrs. B thinks our 34 is “RV Camping”). Your 27 is a little “vintage” and I don’t think that you will get the biggest bang for the buck when doing upgrades (The outboard version isn’t the most desirable here on the Bay.) I don’t think that you will recover the cost of the cushions in a resale. If you are on a budget, keep the upgrades to a minimum and with the thought of transferring them over to the big boat.
05-15-2012 01:34 PM
shadowraiths
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

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If the foam is good for $700 you could buy a nice sailrite machine and teach yourself to sew. Just cut the stitching on the old cushions and use the material from that as a template to make new ones.

Then when you trade up you can take the sailrite with you.

This is on my summer project list. I need new curtains and some monitor dodger/bimini work and storage bags. Just cheaper to do it myself and take the skills and machine with me as I move on.
This is a good point. I learned to sew as a teen and even made my spending money designing my own patterns and sewing wedding gowns, etc, so sewing would not be an issue. Another possibility, outside of buying the machine, is that I have a friend who owns a canvas shop and has offered the use of his equipment and wholesale price on materials. I was thinking it would be a pain to haul the cushions over there, since I rely upon public transit. But, duh! I just need to remove he covers and take those.
05-15-2012 11:41 AM
LauderBoy
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

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Originally Posted by shadowraiths View Post
A new set run in the neighborhood of $3K.
If the foam is good for $700 you could buy a nice sailrite machine and teach yourself to sew. Just cut the stitching on the old cushions and use the material from that as a template to make new ones.

Then when you trade up you can take the sailrite with you.

This is on my summer project list. I need new curtains and some monitor dodger/bimini work and storage bags. Just cheaper to do it myself and take the skills and machine with me as I move on.
05-14-2012 11:51 PM
shadowraiths
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

That is something I have considered as well... trading to a better equipped, possibly, newer catalina 27.
05-14-2012 05:11 PM
puddinlegs
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

Then there's 'trading different'. There are days when I'd love sailing (specifically racing) to be more physical/kinetic/faster. An F18 cat would be a pile of fun.
05-14-2012 04:20 PM
bljones
Re: Pitfalls of trading up?

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This. Actually, I met a couple who advised getting a zodiac or similar for puttering around the estuary. They said they use theirs to go over to Jack London square as well as hitting various yacht club events along the estuary. Another thing I noticed. People use their dinghies, as opposed to footing it on the docks, to visit each other. I've seen situations where a couple will be sitting on the back of their boat, with 3 or 4 dinghies parked around them, visiting, singing, and pretty much having a great time. It's a rather interesting social phenomenon, imo. Anyway, that couple said a dinghy is a must have for short trips to local establishments. I have also toyed with the idea of getting a sailing dinghy. There are a few (RS, open bic, sunfish, that sort of thing) that look quite tempting.

Eer...sorta.
This is our guest boat;


Our water-getter/beer-runner/OB test bed/ general marina visit buggy is this:
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