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05-10-2012 09:33 PM
CaptainForce
Re: Mooring in Florida

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......................Why is Florida allowing five cities to have jurisdiction over some areas?
There are private and city operated mooring fields all throughout the Mid-Atlantic States and New England,- Annapolis, Newport, Port Washington, Block Island, Boothbay, Bar Harbor and even in Canada have mooring fields in a far greater concentration than in Florida and made available for a far greater cost than the moorings in Florida. Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida are the locations on the East US Coast with fewer mooring fields and more open areas available for anchoring. I can always find a place to anchor in the SE US, but Long Island Sound and through Maine it's often moorings or nothing.....City Island, Port Jefferson, Tennants Harbor, Cape Porpoise, Rockport, Camden, Portsmouth, NH....it's a long list! Who started this myth about Florida being restrictive to anchoring? Take care and joy, Aythya crew
05-10-2012 06:22 PM
cupper3
Re: Mooring in Florida

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That's great!.....but wait, that's exactly the same as in the US! ....and we, just like you guys, are not to anchor inside a mooring field. Yes, all US waterways are public domain too. Take care and joy, Aythya crew
Are they? In Canada, they come under federal jurisdiction, and it appears that various states are employing state jurisdiction on marine water bodies. As a result, although there are some universal rules the USCG enforces, are there not also state rules that vary? Why is Florida allowing five cities to have jurisdiction over some areas?
05-10-2012 06:21 PM
boatpoker
Re: Mooring in Florida

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Guess you don't know what is happening out on Vancouver Island, particularly Nanaimo, then. Try mooring in False Creek in Vancouver and see what happens.
Just for a laugh you should try anchoring in Confederation Basin in Kingston Ontario and be very careful if drop your hook too close to a Provincial Park on Georgian Bay or in waters claimed by aboriginals.
05-10-2012 06:12 PM
CaptainForce
Re: Mooring in Florida

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God I love living in Canada. All waterways are public domain. Moor anywhere.(with the exception of designated shipping routes) The only thing frowned upon is blocking or impeding access for waterfront owners. They still have to bitch first though.

Only have a 5 month season so gotta get my ups where I can.:]
That's great!.....but wait, that's exactly the same as in the US! ....and we, just like you guys, are not to anchor inside a mooring field. Yes, all US waterways are public domain too. Take care and joy, Aythya crew
05-10-2012 09:34 AM
denverd0n
Re: Mooring in Florida

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AFAIK, most cities have adopted a mooring field concept where the put the prime locations under their mooring zone, and you need to pay the city. but if you are not in a mooring zone you are fine.
OTOH, local police have been known to harass boats if you anchor in front of a mc-mansion. while they are usually wrong, not worth the trouble of arguing .
Most cities? No, there are a grand total of five cities in Florida that are participating in the mooring field trials. That's it.

There has, however, been a lot of historic conflict between cities, counties, and the state concerning who has jurisdiction over anchoring and mooring. Actually, there has been a lot of wrangling over this and many other subjects, with a lot of cities wanting to be free to regulate anything they want in any way they want, and the state legislature repeatedly reminding them that state law takes precedence over city law.

The state says you can anchor anywhere that you are not blocking navigation, except for in the five mooring field trials where anchoring is restricted within the mooring fields. State law specifically says that cities cannot pass their own, more restrictive, anchoring regulations. Because there are no penalties for cities that choose to flagrantly disregard state law, though, cities still send out their water-cops to tell you that you can't anchor here or there and to harass you into moving. Fight it in court and you will win (assuming you have a halfway decent attorney), but it will cost you time and money.

Luckily, there seem to be only a few places where this is a serious issue. BoatUS has a lot of good information on this subject, and cruisersnet.net is also a good source for current information.
05-10-2012 01:28 AM
ftldiver
Re: Mooring in Florida

AFAIK, most cities have adopted a mooring field concept where the put the prime locations under their mooring zone, and you need to pay the city. but if you are not in a mooring zone you are fine.
OTOH, local police have been known to harass boats if you anchor in front of a mc-mansion. while they are usually wrong, not worth the trouble of arguing .
05-09-2012 10:15 PM
cupper3
Re: Mooring in Florida

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Originally Posted by Mormandeus View Post
God I love living in Canada. All waterways are public domain. Moor anywhere.(with the exception of designated shipping routes) The only thing frowned upon is blocking or impeding access for waterfront owners. They still have to bitch first though.

Only have a 5 month season so gotta get my ups where I can.:]
Guess you don't know what is happening out on Vancouver Island, particularly Nanaimo, then. Try mooring in False Creek in Vancouver and see what happens.
05-09-2012 09:40 PM
-OvO-
Re: Mooring in Florida

For those who are confused by the animosity toward live-aboard boaters, I suggest you consider the historical examples of the Bedouin, the Roma, the hobo, and the Jew. Among many others, no doubt. (and here, we veer off into politics, so should probably go over there, huh).
05-09-2012 09:24 PM
Mormandeus
Re: Mooring in Florida

God I love living in Canada. All waterways are public domain. Moor anywhere.(with the exception of designated shipping routes) The only thing frowned upon is blocking or impeding access for waterfront owners. They still have to bitch first though.

Only have a 5 month season so gotta get my ups where I can.:]
05-07-2012 07:27 AM
CaptainForce
Re: Mooring in Florida

As Joethecobbler says, "there is a distinction between anchoring and mooring". I would not recommend anchoring a boat for the purpose of storing the boat unattended. Some have maligned the city operated mooring fields, but they do provide a sevice that might be right for you,- a secure location and shore access with amenities. Take care and joy, Aythya crew
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