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12-10-2012 11:06 PM
gpwil3847
Re: Morgan 24

Took my first sail Finally on 8 December 2012, ! Purchased Felicity in late November of 2011.
I was worried about the shrouds on the starbord side due to the rot, but I did add two 12" aluminum extensions with 6 stainless bolts. took the strain of a 20 degree heel so I am thinking I shouldn't worry so much. Still I do want to replace both bulkheads under the threshold which supports the base of the mast. Big Job. Perhaps I should wait until I take her out of the water again year after next? The pictures are on the Facebook morgan group, also have some of the old pictures on the Yahoo morgan owners group site.
08-08-2012 07:58 PM
gpwil3847
Re: Morgan 24

Sorry for poor grammatical skills, it was never my strongest subject. I have an AA, BA from Texas, BSN from USM, and an MSN from USA, and am certified as a Diabetic Educator CDE. Spent 20 years in the Air Force Nurse Corps, I am just being lazy. Will try a little harder.

If you go to the Morgan Group on the Facebook page you can see some updated pictures of Felicity and my ODay Mariner. And there are some photos on the Yahoo Morgan Owners group.

I have replaced all the 45 year old teak with AZEC in Cobre colour which is close to a teak, and have replaced all teak cleats which were badly worn or broken with black nylon without having to cut any holes.

I have all necessary supplies to replace lifelines which had been damaged removed, holes covered and topsides painted over before I purchased the boat.

As far as the Water tank I have a 2" PVC bung so should never have a problem with corrosion again. I do however have to build a new support for the tank, another ship in a bottle effort! have new tubing. I do not believe it will be possible to remove the monel tank through the anchor locker, and I do not plan on cutting any of the interior fiberglass which is still in very good condition considering the age of the boat. This project has been set aside for the moment, I decided to work outside.

49 stainless machine screws nuts and washers on each side of the boat for the toe rails, I am experiencing numbness on occasion in my forearms and hands from all the strain, used putty or "butyl rubber" tape as the seating much less leakage now, though did find a couple in a heavy rain which needed a washer, perhaps some calk and to be retightened.

That's it for now, thanks for the advice. George
08-08-2012 05:53 PM
Jeff_H
Re: Morgan 24

"Remember, though, any time you're cutting fiberglas, wear long sleeves, latex gloves and glasses. And Peltor headphones. Any power tool in a small cabin is like working inside a drum. It's extra loud."

And a high quality air-filter respirator.
08-08-2012 05:24 PM
Caliber28
Re: Morgan 24

To the Morgan 24 sailor, two suggestions:

I know I'm eight months late but...

Tho I love your energy, your replies are so long and solid copy that, unless one is retired and has lots of spare time, I wouldn't read past the 10th line. And it's unfortunate because you may have lots of great morsels to share.

Please break up your copy into paragraphs, and please make the first sentence of the paragraph, what the paragraph is about. Thank you. It will be much more inviting for us to read.

On the water tank, I had a similar challenge. The under-v-berth tank opening was 2" in diameter. So I bought an inspection port, which screws open and shut, with an o-ring gasket,

I bought a 4" because I could get my hand and arm inside for scrubbing the tank, and because I didn't have room for a 6". With the 6", you can more easily get a hose, the sprayer, a scrub brush, whatever, inside the tank and you'll know your water will be clean. Install a 6" if you have the space.

Also, a big inspection port makes it easier to fill the tank with jerry jugs, if you aren't using a hose. There's less water slop.

The absolute best tool to own, for boats, is a top-handle Bosch jig saw. You can cut anything and Bosch offers so many kinds of blades (wood, fiberglas, aluminum-cutting, etc.) Although my last three were corded models, there's much to recommend if Bosch makes a cordless. but it's not that big a deal.

Whatever brand you buy, make sure it's orbital, not old- fashioned straight up-and-down. They cut faster/cleaner and you can do a plunge cut if you have 15" and you don't have a drill hole. If you need to cut a small diameter hole in a space too tight for a jig saw, you can also use a laminate trimmer with a spiral bit.

Remember, though, any time you're cutting fiberglas, wear long sleeves, latex gloves and glasses. And Peltor headphones. Any power tool in a small cabin is like working inside a drum. It's extra loud.
06-13-2012 10:41 PM
gpwil3847
Re: Morgan 24

Getting the Bung out of the water tank and replacing it with a PVC one has allowed me to move on. I have nearly replaced all of the old beat up teak cleats with black nylon with flat aluminum stock rather than washers as a backing plate, and have done the impossible - like building a ship in a bottle I have also replaced the cleats that are on the forward part of the coaming near the aft bulkhead of the cabin! Using sticks, lashing a wrench to it using duct tape on a piece of PVC as my "sticky bomb" to pick up nonferris stainless an aluminum I may have dropped, the old washers and nuts. It took two sticks and 2.5" 1/4" stainless screws to make getting the aluminum backing plate over both screws up inside the coaming - by doing this I did not have to drill any holes in the fiberglass. I had to crouch inside the sail locker on each side and my older son did help me turning the screw driver while I held a socket taped to a wrench with the nut in it. It can indeed be done if you use your noggin.
06-09-2012 08:02 PM
gpwil3847
Re: Morgan 24

The battle of the stuck nut - today was the day! On the Morganowners group on yahoo I had received good advice. I have been struggling with this watertank nut for weeks! I tried filing a little, then took the 32mm 12 point 1/2 inch socket and my 1/2 inch ratchet which was the closest fit. I took my hammer and hammered the socket onto the nut. It gripped! I needed leverage as the monel tank was flexing up and down, and with the torque - no good. I lashed a crowbar to the rachet I sprayed with PB Blaster several times! I was able to push AND pull! until the nut was rounded off! Not to be defeated my mighty mind formulated a plan worthy of the great Promethius, and the 7 great labors of Heracles! I brought my drill and with a new 1/8th inch metal bit drilled through the nut, then in progressive sizes I finally opened up a 1/2" hole in the nut, then drilled some smaller holes on either side of the nut planning on using a single bare hack saw blade to connect the holes, after sawing and sawing the nut was in half as close to the edge of the opening as I dared because I did not wish to destroy the threads of the tank. Finally the time arrived I hammered with a large flat head screw driver, then used my vice grips as Dad taught me and squeezed, the gap between the halves of the nut came together but the blasted nut still would not move. I grabbed my 21" plummers wrench, removed blocks under the tank to make room and pulled. Half of the nut broke free but the other half was still stuck. I pushed from the other side and the nut finally turned!! half fell out, then I had to unscrew the other half even after all of that. Some yahoo had used a common galvanized plumming nut which was so corroded I do not believe there was any other way short of using a circular saw bit to cut a new hole to get this nut out. Wow, when this was over the forward berth looked a mes with filthy tools, sweat, grime, took a while to get down to shining the surface with some polishing compound and then some polish. Needless to say, I will find a nylon or pvc nut of the apporpriate size and will never ever over tighten it! I don't know who on earth amongst the former owners did this but I would like to give them a piece of my mind. I used my extension magnet to pick up the metal filings and to retreive 1 and 1/2 hacksaw blades from the tank. I will pump it dry - yes it seems to be half full of water (Infact over 4 large buckets full) I put the siphon tube through 1/2" PVC to ensure I got as much of the water out as possible. One sip of that water would drop a man in 30 minutes! When some drops of this sludge dripped on the white fiberglass of the V berth I had to look at my hand to see If I had cut myself - it looked like drops of blood. Not sure how on earth I will ever clean this tank out, not sure I would even want to wash dishes with it at this point. But have it empty now, hopefully it will dry out, I will have to shop for a pvc fitting large enough to fit and will never make it more than finger tight. Perhaps when the tank is lighter it will be much easier to build a frame or support under neath, to locate where the hose to the sink is attached so I can place a new one, perhaps the old one is crimped, or plugged with sludge?? - enough work for one day. Sometimes the simple low tech brute force works after all and in some cases is simply the only way. I did purchase a plastic 6 gallon water tank fits well behind the stairs, perhaps I will make a T fitting at the flipper faucet so I can switch between potable tank water and drinkable water, and just flip the faucet to clean it out after switching to the drinking water? George
05-26-2012 02:04 PM
gpwil3847
Re: Morgan 24

Added a picture under title Felicity.
05-22-2012 09:42 AM
gpwil3847
Re: Morgan 24

After days, the bilge is still dry as a bone! Now that's what I'm talkin about!! On the yard after 45 years this boat's bottom was very sound, no delamination, just solid and strong topsides and hull, the thickness of the fiberglass used is impressive, I have heard morgans are built like a tank, it is true. the inner lining of the cabin is beautiful - sure it is 45 years old, there is your typical wear from owners who failed to maintain her but with just a little cleaning spray and a rag years of built up grime just wipes away, and with a little wax I am able to see some of her former glory come back. I knew the quality of morgan yachts which is why I wanted another. There is a lot of work ahead but with a sound hull, rigging, and sails the boat can and will be brought back. I just completed work to my satisfaction on my 1972 O'Day Mariner except for painting but she is still remarkably sound 40 years later took her out with my son - I still have it like riding a bike with no engine, failed to realize just how low the tide was and did not realize how Katrina had changed the depth of the bay in a boat that has a 10" draft with the board up at one point I had to raise the rudder and skull to make way over the shallow areas as I listened to the boat scraping along the muddy bottom at 8pm. Makes me worry about my 32" in the morgan as I remember sailing more or less care free around the bay in December standing on the bow with the tiller tied off in a bathing suit with my shirt off in my mid twenties gee now in my mid 50's! I need maintenance too, grecian formula, watching the calories, walking and jogging, balanced diet. I plan to replace the broken teak cleats with black nylon a couple are inside the coaming and beyond the bulkhead of the sail locker very difficult to reach. I am also worried about replacing the hand rails as they must be bolted on yet the cabin liner covers them - I would hate to have to drill holes in the overhead liner, but If I must I must as the hand rails are literally worn down and thin from owners who must have sanded them repeatedly. I am thinking about teak vs mahogany vs oak. I know teak is the number one choice wood as it is naturally oily, weathers well and is beautiful with an occasional cleaning and oiling in a natural finish but extremely expensive more so than it was even in the early 80's. the toe rail is also going to be a job there must be a hundred stainless screws and bolts per side. Well, this is a project boat, largely therapy and nostalgia as my heart is heavy with sadness over my wife's mental deterioration early alzheimer's that has moved into the advanced stage. Sometimes my thoughts are to end it I am worn and tired, there will be sorrow and loneliness, but my sons rely on me, my wife relies on me, so would never do that very irresponsible and selfish - cowardly, I will live through this, it will be hard but I will have a life left to live when it is over God Willing and we will meet in heaven some day.... I am not sure I could find another partner in the future it will take time beyond her passing, which is still perhaps 3 years off more or less? It is hard when she is yelling at me as I am helping her but she is not in her right mind and cannot help it - so frustrating.....tiring. God has set his canon against self slaughter - so shakespearian. But that is life God did not promise we would always have a life of ease but there is joy in his faithfulness to us at all times spiritually holding our hand along the way.
05-16-2012 11:14 PM
gpwil3847
Re: Morgan 24

The boat is finally at my dock, spent the afternoon scrubbing the topsides, and started on the cabin inside. The Centerboard system works just as Charlie Morgan designed it, there are some new through hulls the inlet to the head with a shut off needs to be reconnected, and the sink drain needs to be reconnected as well. The 5" crack was sanded out and fiberglassed, and the bottom was preped and has a new coat of antifouling paint. She sure looked pretty under full sail moving fast on a windy day. The basics are all there, the rest I can do on my own, so now the fun begins.
05-13-2012 05:36 PM
gpwil3847
Re: Morgan 24

Back from celebrating Mother's day. Message on my machine from the Yard owner who states the boat is on the crane and he is putting it back in the water, will bring it over today (about a 30 mile trip) will be glad to have it back with sound rigging, and hull, bringing the rest back will be up to me, nothing I can't handle should be fun. My objective is not for the boat to look brand spanking new but a boat in good repair which has aged gracefully and been well maintained. I do not have the $100,000 to spare for a complete refit by a professional outfit. But I can spare several thousand and alot of sweat equity and inginuity to do my best. I am sure the accomplishment will be quite satisfying
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