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Topic Review (Newest First)
01-01-2002 09:48 AM
valhalla2005
boom vang for 20ft boat

Yes, it is!
12-10-2001 06:45 AM
BigRed56
boom vang for 20ft boat

Ahoy Jeff my point was it is not necessary to over engineer a rig just because you can. Not every sailor has buckets of money to throw overboard on the best rig, or repair. The original question was purley a math question and in my opinion the solution I offered explained two distinct points, 1. If you want to make a performance upgrade you can rig almost anything to work for the purpose of trials. 2. The math required to compute the load requirements isn''t woth the effort in this case except possibly to the original author. The information given is insufficent in any event and without condensendingly trying to explain it all I offered a practical way to work out the problem. Not everything in sailing has to be so complicated. Just do it.
12-10-2001 04:36 AM
Jeff_H
boom vang for 20ft boat

The only problem using galvanized blocks is that pretty quickly you end up with rust stains on your deck and frozen blocks when the typical steel pivot rusts. While 1/2 inch sisal rope is cheap, it rots out in a couple years or less, is very stretchy and is quite incomfortable on the hands. I sail on boats with these kind of "welcome to yesterday" type details in traditional boat regattas and have no nostalia for this kind of backward in time setups.

Jeff
12-09-2001 08:21 PM
BigRed56
boom vang for 20ft boat

Ahoy,Jimq Yes, better to snap a rope than a boom or a mast or you might even flip oh no! But relly now have you tryed it or are ya just yanking our sheets? Hey I know where you can get a hydrulic winch that ought to do the job. Let me make you a little bet, go to the local harware store buy a couple of galvanized blocks and some 1/2 inch sisal rope. If it breaks let me know. I send you a book with the technical info you need. Big Red 56
11-30-2001 12:27 PM
danield515
boom vang for 20ft boat

I would not feel safe with 660lbs. I would use jeff''s cascade idea which would give you 1320lbs and piece of mind.
11-24-2001 11:32 AM
Jimq
boom vang for 20ft boat

Thanks for your reply but I''m mainly interested in whether 660lbs working load is enough for this boat and the size of the sail.
11-23-2001 02:41 PM
Jeff_H
boom vang for 20ft boat

While the precise answer depneds on the geometry of the boom vang, 3:1 sounds a little on the light side. It would be cheap and easy to add a wire cascade which would bring the vang up to 6:1 which should proove more than adequate. To make a wire cascade, you would buy a small bullet block made for wire and a length of 1/8" 7x19 wire with thimbles in each end. One end gets shackled to the vang bale and the other end to the upper block of your existing 3:1 vang. You are then pulling with a 3:1 mechanical advantage on a 2:1 tackle resulting in a very low friction 6:1 system.

Good luck
Jeff
11-23-2001 06:48 AM
Jimq
boom vang for 20ft boat

Is a boom vang with a working load of 660lbs,3:1 enough for a 20ft boat with a 21ft luff and 8.7ft foot?

 
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