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06-13-2014 08:50 AM
markburkes
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

I recommend the Gauss Marine Sleeping Bag. It's layered with fleece inner and the synthetic fillings work if they get wet - unlike down-filled bags!

The Gauss bag is sold in the UK as Gauss is a British company, but they can be persuaded to ship the the US and Australia. Prices are about £189.95 ($320).

The bags are very warm when both layers are used and I know many that have never used the inner fleece layer. Personally, for sailing in cold climates, the Gauss is a very welcome, warm and comfortable treat!
07-07-2012 10:22 AM
windnrock
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

A good liner can add about 10 deg. to the bag rating as can a cover or bivy sac on the outside. Depending on what you have to sleep on, many of the previous suggestions are great. An inflatable mattress, an inexpensive man made fiber bag good to maybe 32 deg with a couple of liners (one light, one heavy) with a breathable cover should cover most situations. You can use the covers alone for warmer and add components for cooler and colder temps. It also makes cleaning much easier! If you are on a boat an additional fleece blanket will give you even more range. Just stick with man made materials.
06-26-2012 08:49 AM
tomfl
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

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I've done a bit of backpacking and my favourite combination is a thin Thermarest pad on the ground to insulate from the cold, then the inflatable Big Agnes on top. Together they're about 3.5 inches thick, nice and warm, and weigh about 3 lbs together.
Agree, I have used that combination and it works well. In hot weather I will use that in combination with a standard bed sheet, comfortable and cool.
06-26-2012 02:28 AM
MarkSF
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

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If I am dealing with very cold weather I sleep in full length UA tights in a HardWarz bag on a Big Agnes or ThermoRest pad. There are other good choices but this is what I would describe as a middle of the road option if you want bang for your buck.
I've done a bit of backpacking and my favourite combination is a thin Thermarest pad on the ground to insulate from the cold, then the inflatable Big Agnes on top. Together they're about 3.5 inches thick, nice and warm, and weigh about 3 lbs together.
06-26-2012 12:36 AM
tomfl
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

I use my camping stuff and have been happy with it. Here are a few considerations not yet mentioned.

Sleeping bag temperature ratings in the US are basically a crap shoot. Even with the top tier brands there is no real apples to apples way to compare different brands. The European system is much better.

Which brings up another issue not yet covered. The European testing assumes the person in the sleeping bag is nude, and this is the way you stay warmest in a sleeping bag. However if you are going to wear clothes you need to wear all synthetic tights to maximize heat retention. This also reduces wear and tear on the bag.

Another thing to keep in mind is that even the best sleeping bag will perform much better if it is on some type of pad, not to mention added comfort for the person sleeping in it. There are several types of pads, starting with the simple foam rubber ones, then self inflating, and then the ones you have to inflate. They all have trade offs.

If I am dealing with very cold weather I sleep in full length UA tights in a HardWarz bag on a Big Agnes or ThermoRest pad. There are other good choices but this is what I would describe as a middle of the road option if you want bang for your buck.
06-11-2012 01:26 PM
asdf38
Good sleeping bag for sailing

Down's strength is its warmth to weight ratio and ability to pack into tiny places. I have a 20 degree down hiking bag thats the size of a football when packed. But you just don't need that on a boat, so why bother with its downsides?
06-11-2012 12:17 PM
miatapaul
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

I think it is interesting that in 2 weeks and 4 pages of posts the originator has not come back. Perhaps a bot? after all it asked basically a camping question on a sailing site.
06-11-2012 08:28 AM
Maine Sail
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

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Maine, is your North Face very old?
Not my NF bag it is my brother in laws and yes it is from their good era. My bag is made by Western Mountaineering.


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I thought they were just into making "Urban Ghetto StyleGear" these days, they aren't who they used to be.
They are "these days". That Bibler Fitzroy tent was sewn by Todd Bibler himself long before Black Diamond bought his company. It's a "Bibler". The TNF bag is fro the good days of TNF...

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And 800 fill...IIRC anything over 600 is measured with a rubber ruler.
Not at all.. 800 fill down is real and very expensive. Even though that TNF bag is fro the good days of TNF I bet it is 750 fill at best. My WM bag is definitely 800 fill.... My wife's friend is a partner of a company called Cuddle Down here in Maine. They have a nice display of the differnt lofts and grades of down. Simple clear 10" diameter tubes all with the same physical weight of down. The 800 fill has HUGE loft.


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I bought a nice pair of zip-leg pants from them a couple of yearrs ago, ordered another pair a year later, same model, same name, and found they'd cut the pockets from 9" to 4" deep, someone in China found a way to knock ten bucks off their cost, I'm sure. Still LOOK good...but they're now in the fashion market, not mountaineering, said to say.
I live ten minutes from a TNF and a Patagonia outlet. They BOTH sell junk these days. My old "summit" parka from TNF you could not pry from my dead fingers but the current model of that down sweater is the biggest POS I have ever seen. Mine stuffs down to the size of a Nalgene bottle, weighs nothing and keeps me toasty in temps down to -35F....

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But even the down makers, the best of the down makes, all say once it gets wet you are screwed. It will have no warmth and take forever to dry.
Yep so you don't get it wet. Been using it now for 35 years and never had that happen. Talking hundreds and hundreds of nights lots of them in winter which is generally when I start hiking. I don't really like it in the summer cause I'm sailing... .. I just really, really dislike synthetics and have tried them all.


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So I love my down, especially my down parka with the goer-tex shell. I've got the remnants of an old double-shell (two quilted shells) arctic expedition parka that I call my Florida Coat because when I'm in it, I'm in warm sunny florida and can't understand why anyone else is having a problem. But I won't take that out in the rain, much less in spray. It's worthless when wet, and yes, it is prime goose down, zero feathers, vintage from when...oh wait, you can't buy that stuff almost anywhere these days anyhow. I think "Feathered Friends" in Seattle is about the last place on earth selling real down expeditionware. (And we talk about marine chandleries being pricey, haha.)
Good mountaineering gear is pricey but worth it. I have a pair of Feathered Friends Gore-Tex down muklucks. They have saved my toes from possible amputation a few times.. The Koflachs are good when moving but when you stop they are darn cold even with VBL's. I have used my down in rainy, windy and snowy and icy conditions for many years but I'm not sloppy with it. If there is a potential for it to get wet It goes into my Bibler bivy that I always carry. The compression sack it is carried in is also waterproof. I kayaked the entire Maine Island Trail in 1992 with a 20 degree down bag in a 18' Current Designs sea kayak. Never once slept is an uncomfortable or wet bag and it was over 40 total nights from start to finish.....

Of our 10 or so bags we do have one synthetic bag and that's for the dogs....
06-10-2012 07:54 PM
St Anna
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

Well,
I am not used to very cold areas. I use a sleeping bag which unzips to be a 'doona'

In the old days and [used only a few years ago], if you are freezing, wrap yourself in a few folds of the spinnaker - more if need be. It will work better than a space blanket.
06-10-2012 05:08 PM
hellosailor
Re: Good sleeping bag for sailing

Maine, is your North Face very old? I thought they were just into making "Urban Ghetto StyleGear" these days, they aren't who they used to be. And 800 fill...IIRC anything over 600 is measured with a rubber ruler. I bought a nice pair of zip-leg pants from them a couple of yearrs ago, ordered another pair a year later, same model, same name, and found they'd cut the pockets from 9" to 4" deep, someone in China found a way to knock ten bucks off their cost, I'm sure. Still LOOK good...but they're now in the fashion market, not mountaineering, said to say.

But even the down makers, the best of the down makes, all say once it gets wet you are screwed. It will have no warmth and take forever to dry. So I love my down, especially my down parka with the goer-tex shell. I've got the remnants of an old double-shell (two quilted shells) arctic expedition parka that I call my Florida Coat because when I'm in it, I'm in warm sunny florida and can't understand why anyone else is having a problem. But I won't take that out in the rain, much less in spray. It's worthless when wet, and yes, it is prime goose down, zero feathers, vintage from when...oh wait, you can't buy that stuff almost anywhere these days anyhow. I think "Feathered Friends" in Seattle is about the last place on earth selling real down expeditionware. (And we talk about marine chandleries being pricey, haha.)
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