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06-01-2012 12:36 PM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

cute lil boat--bet she sails well!
06-01-2012 12:29 PM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

A adult has to know there limitations and as someone who runs LARGE projects for a living the boat was a pretty big one

BUT i know how to break thinks down into wants and needs and it is the needs that cant be overlooked

Its done and i own the 29' boat that is fitted out EXACTLY how i want and i have ZERO regrets and ZERO DEBT
06-01-2012 11:54 AM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

i bought an old boat left to die in mymoorings.i fixed some of her ills and went sailing. yes i trusted her in the ocean. i am still repairing, but i am not dependent on remaining in port as i do these repairs--is called cruising. as long as ye dont gut the entire thing , isnt as much work initially as if ye do.
i bought a gutted boat in 1990 and thought i was going to sail her--lol at myself--was too busy working to make things go i didnt get anywhere with repairs. this time i made sure i had an interior and an engine and sound hull--and i am out and about, heading ever farther south as i goooood----define cruising as repairing your boat in exotic locations. works for me.
good luck on your venture--sounds massive. just dont give up. farm out as much as ye can--sometimes that helps ye see the tunnel's end light....
06-01-2012 11:40 AM
benajah Restoring a trashed boat is only really worth it if you really like working on boats and you find real value in the pleasure of working on it.
Financially it is much cheaper to buy a pretty decent aged boat than a fixer upper.
Kind of like people who like to build their own furniture. It's a whole lot more expensive to build a dresser than buy one.
05-31-2012 06:59 PM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

some people trust too easily,some people don't fully trust anything,be it boat,women,best friend or the guy walking behind you in a war zone
05-31-2012 05:34 PM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

I'll take inanity over argumentative redundancy any day. It takes less time to read.
05-31-2012 04:15 PM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

I always find comparisons between inanimate objects and women to be, well, inane.

Let's consider how the world would be if women were actually like sailboats.
  • Many men and boys would try dating once and then give up after finding it too confusing.
  • Some boys would date or even be married when younger but most of these would never have another date after the age of 15.
  • Only 1 out of 1,000 men would actually have a wife.
  • Most of the husbands would only interact with their wives on the weekend and even during this time most would still spend the nights separately.
  • A significant fraction of these husbands would be unable to interact with their wives without having one or two friends come along.
  • Wives who had to live in separate locations would be more highly valued.
  • Wives requiring more expensive shoes, clothes, jewelry, and a separate place to live would be more highly valued.
  • Larger and heavier wives would be more highly valued.
  • Men would not care how difficult or dangerous their wives were as long as the marriage cost more.
  • A man in an expensive, dangerous marriage whose large and heavy wife lived in a separate location and whom he rarely interacted with and had to take friends along when he did would insist that he was a true husband and had a very good wife.
  • Others would insist that a marriage was solely for the purpose of entering dating contests.
  • Men who had inexpensive, safe, petite wives whom they interacted with daily and who lived at the same location would be looked down upon and considered merely casual husbands.
  • Others would insist that a petite wife who did not participate in dating contests had no value.
  • Women who had been previously married even multiple times would still be valued.
  • Men would openly admit that they did not know anything about dating, marriage, or women and that they needed to take classes.
05-30-2012 01:46 PM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

Originally Posted by bljones View Post
Old boats are like ugly women.
All boats are like women. Some you love, some you put up with, some you can't wait to get rid of.
05-30-2012 12:39 PM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

Originally Posted by PPPPPP42 View Post
I have no interest in a boat too small to have a cabin
If your boat is not ready to sail then I would suggest getting a smaller boat to have something to sail until you get your boat fixed. You don't have to be married to a smaller boat; it's just something temporary. For example, I saw a 14' daysailer on CL up around Duluth for $1,000. That's a very convenient boat to hop in and go. If that is too much you could build a PD Racer for $200 or $300. That would give you something to sail and remind you of why you are working on the larger boat. If you want to weekend but you only have a dinghy then you take along a tent and sleep in that (at a KOA or a state park with plumbing). Or you can stay at motel 6 and go daysailing after breakfast. Not having a cabin doesn't have to prevent you from having fun now. I've sailed with people who slept in tents next to the water, people who spent the night at a motel, and people who had boats the size of a West Wight Potter 15 with just enough space for two people to sleep. Again this will keep your spirits up and remind you why you are working on the big boat.
05-30-2012 12:25 PM
Re: Do you really know and trust your boat?

Originally Posted by Trinidoc View Post
I recently bought an OOD34 that had been essentially left to rot so got it at what seemed a steal. After gutting it completely the joy of my purchase soon disappeared as the list of parts to change continues to grow - new engine, new wiring and everything electrical, new rigging, recover all cushions etc etc. Luckily only a few panels of wood were rotten. I'm hoping the sails can last me a couple of years but even those will likely need changing soon but they haven't been tested.

My point is that you are correct in that if you can't jump on your new boat and sail, the magic vanishes. Even my kids now hate it when I say lets go down by the boat.
I don't know how old your kids are but I would think they would want a sailboat they could sail alone rather than one that requires a committee. Can you even single hand that boat? My impression of the Offshore One Design 34 is that it is a thousand mile boat, that it doesn't really stretch its legs until you've gone 200 miles. I can't see it as a daysailer when even my 20 footer is pushing the limits of convenience for daysailing. If I'm not mistaken in a 10mph wind your sheets can have 100 lbs of pull. A sheet pull strong enough to dislocate your shoulder seems like more work than fun to me. It sounds like a nice boat for a long trip but to have fun I would think something smaller would be better.
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