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|11-02-2006 10:38 PM|
|sailingdog||The other thing they do is sell direct to the public, avoiding the markup that the distributors and retailers have to make on the product.|
|11-02-2006 10:26 PM|
|LazyGuy||Garhauer!!! It is not a cheaper product, it is a less expensive product. The money they do not spend on half a dozen full page ads in every sail magazine and the money that the retailer makes is translated into savings to you.|
|10-30-2006 02:37 PM|
For cruising you likely do not need rachet blocks but they can be handy. In light to moderate air you can just use the block, you do not have to use a winch. The block does not turn back so you have a fair bit of friction when easing the sheet. This allows you to hand hold the line.
I am actually putting a pair on my 30 footer a S2 9.1. Since these boats come with the seconday winches on the cabin top I find that when we are raising or dropping a spinaker at a mark while racing we some times need to hold the sheet or guy by hand for a short period. If it is really blowing that can be difficult. The rachet block would help out here.
I have only had it one one summer so there may be other options but I like the rachet blocks. On smaller boats you can just use them and no winch required.
|10-30-2006 02:08 PM|
|sailingdog||Ratchet blocks act to give you more control over a line and help reduce the load on your hands, by resisting the turning force of the asym sheets. I use one for the boom brake setup on my boat. Depending on the size of the asym and the winches used for it, you probably don't need a ratchet block. Generally, they're only used on lines that are handled manually, not ones that have a mechanical advantage device.|
|10-30-2006 01:44 PM|
|mstern||Not to belabor the point, but here's another vote for Garhauer. I bought a soft vang from them at the Miami Boat Show. Very good quality, and about 2/3rds the price of the other major brands, including internet and ebay prices.|
|10-30-2006 01:41 PM|
thanks for the replies..
now here is a value/need question. what are the inherrent advantages of using a ratchet over a standard block in an asymm spinnaker environment? for instance, the very affordable lewmar 60mm w/ becket on defender.com does not have a ratchet. the harken 3.00 w/o becket is $50.00 ea. as this won't be used in a racing environment, i'll mostly be sailing to trim.
|10-30-2006 11:47 AM|
|sailingdog||I'd also agree that the Garhauer are more in line with the Lewmar Racing. I've used the Garhauer on a few other projects and been very happy with them.|
|10-30-2006 11:34 AM|
Another vote for Garhauer blocks!
I had same experience with special pricing at Annapolis Boatshow, but the regular prices are a bargain for hardware of this quality.
S/V Born Free
|10-30-2006 11:28 AM|
|TrueBlue||I'll second the recommendation of Garhauer blocks, if they carry the type you need. I have found their fair prices to be even lower by negotiating directly with the owners at boat shows. I purchased several lead blocks at the Newport International Boat Show this way. As SD & SF stated, excellent quality and designs - made in the USA.|
|10-30-2006 11:04 AM|
We have switched most of our blocks to Garhauer and have been very pleased with them. The Defender prices on Lewmar Synchro blocks are quite good - they are almost down to the cost of the Garhauers. But note that the Garhauer equipment really compares to the Lewmar Racing blocks, not the Synchro, and for those blocks Garhauer appears to keep its price advantage.
The spinnaker halyard turning block was one of our last Lewmar Ocean 2 blocks and I had not replaced it due to infrequent use. It failed this summer, sending the shive over our heads like a missile. I noted that it was the pin weld that failed, and the block opened up like a clamshell. A nice feature of the Garhauer and the Lewmar Racing blocks is, a design with no pin.
If you haven't handled the Garhauer in person, my advice would be to buy one of each, put them side-by-side, and I think the Garhauer answer will be obvious. Return whichever you don't like.
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