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06-05-2012 09:30 PM
jrd22
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

I've never been sick on a sailboat but I've come close on large power boats in heavy swells. Like Brian, I have trouble when I get back to land, fell over in the shower at Ganges Hbr one time :-)) I think I would have been in trouble on a tuna fishing trip in 20+' seas (42' charter boat) if it weren't for Scop, out of 10 people I was the only one that didn't get sick but I didn't feel great. IIRC Vega? (SV Lealea) here on SN had a bad trip from Hawaii to Seattle, sick for a couple of weeks, maybe he'll jump on here with some info. I think I read that he's heading back to HI so he must have figured something out to help with it.
06-05-2012 08:58 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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Originally Posted by NautiC25 View Post
I don't normally get queezy, but it's happened when I was hot, tired, and dehydrated on a long day of boating, and inside the cabin. Once I got outside to see the land, I was fine.
That's what I have noticed - if you are feeling queasy, DON'T GO BELOW.
06-05-2012 08:48 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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Originally Posted by travlineasy View Post
I was seasick for nearly 4 years while in the U.S. Navy serving aboard the Heavy Cruiser U.S.S. Newport News, CA-148. The ship was 760 feet long, round bottomed and in heavy seas rolled verrrrry slowly. Got out of the Navy, fished aboard small boats, mostly under 30 feet, and never again became seasick. Go figure. Gary
From what I understand, slow rolling is far more likely to induce it than choppy motions.
06-05-2012 08:43 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

The only time I ever got seasick was when I was 11 on a 22,000 ton Cunard liner in the North Atlantic in November. I didn't get hit badly, but enough to know what the victims go through. IIRC I didn't have any protein spills but definitely lost my appetite for a day.

When seasick, your biggest fear is that you won't die.
06-05-2012 08:33 PM
Cruisingdad
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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Originally Posted by xymotic View Post
Thanks Brian, my big problem is that I got a fixer-upper that's currently on the hard and not seaworthy. All my time/money is really going be needed to go to working on it, not 5 day offshore trips. The trip I'm on was supposed to settle the question for me, but with only 1 or 2 day passages which I keep getting sick it seems like I'm back to square one on my own journey of self-discovery trying to find my personal puke stop level

I guess worst case I can spend a few years cruising puget sound and then truck it to the sea of cortez or something. I can think of worse fates.

But as far as drugs like scopalmine, do people take that for months or years at a time?
Just take it when you need it and pull it off. Ii suspect you will get your sea legs and no longer need it. My guess.

Brian
06-05-2012 08:31 PM
xymotic
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

Thanks Brian, my big problem is that I got a fixer-upper that's currently on the hard and not seaworthy. All my time/money is really going be needed to go to working on it, not 5 day offshore trips. The trip I'm on was supposed to settle the question for me, but with only 1 or 2 day passages which I keep getting sick it seems like I'm back to square one on my own journey of self-discovery trying to find my personal puke stop level

I guess worst case I can spend a few years cruising puget sound and then truck it to the sea of cortez or something. I can think of worse fates.

But as far as drugs like scopalmine, do people take that for months or years at a time?
06-05-2012 07:59 PM
casey1999
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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Originally Posted by Cruisingdad View Post
By the way, on a silly side note, the only time I get "sea Sick" is when I have been at sea a long time and step on land!!!! My brain goes into some kind of "error Mode"... like the floor is supposed to be moving but isnt!!! Me and Kris call it, "The Boat is Moving". It can last for 24 hours on land for us. Really freaky, especially sitting at a table at a restaurant and having to hold on to the chair nxt to you... ON DRY LAND!!

ANyone else have this problem??!??? You know you do, go ahead and speak up!!

Brian
All the time, its called getting your land legs.
06-05-2012 07:46 PM
Cruisingdad
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

By the way, on a silly side note, the only time I get "sea Sick" is when I have been at sea a long time and step on land!!!! My brain goes into some kind of "error Mode"... like the floor is supposed to be moving but isnt!!! Me and Kris call it, "The Boat is Moving". It can last for 24 hours on land for us. Really freaky, especially sitting at a table at a restaurant and having to hold on to the chair nxt to you... ON DRY LAND!!

ANyone else have this problem??!??? You know you do, go ahead and speak up!!

Brian
06-05-2012 07:39 PM
Cruisingdad
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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Originally Posted by xymotic View Post
Well, I've seen lots of posts about "my wife uses X" or "I once had a crew who was sick Y days"

I'm more interested in knowing from people who get sea sick and are still able to run the boat day in and day out. I mean I know I can 'do it' I never missed a watch on that 12 day run, but I also spent a night in the hospital in San Diego, and I'd rather not ever do it again

I think my 12 day thing was montezuma's or something like it, but I'm not sure. On this most recent trip, I've been sick every single time we've hit open water. But fine the rest, and I was thinking after 20 days of small motion on a boat a little big motion on day 22 would not affect me but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Now, having said all that, I'm on a big boat. On the plus, it's got mass and stabilizers etc. The downside is that my cabin is 15 or 20' off the water so the motion is amplified, and I have not spent hardly any time at the helm.

But the whole thing has kinda knocked the wind out of my sails if you'll excuse the pun. I'm wondering if I shouldn't pursue a different life's dream.
I am going to be bluntly honest with you. Please take it as such.

You need to make sure you can handle that boat thoughtfully before singlhanding. As many know, I end up SH (single Handing) a LOT offshore or passages. I personally believe you are a lot less of a liability being sleepy or not being able to focus through binocs than puking and dehydrated.

I ask ANYONE gonig on a passage with me how sea sick prone they are. 48 hours.... you ain't going. Meet me there on the plane. I cannot SH and take care of you and be responsible for me too and the boat and the kids. That does not work for me. I know of NO experienced sailor who would dissagree with that who has had a really MS person on board.

Now, that being said, I have personally used: Scopolamine, Valium, Phenegren, Ginger, and Pepermint. Valium and Phen do not bother me like most people. My uses were for somethin completely different (one was a kidney stone... ugh), but the effect were the same. With Phen, I get a tad bit sleepy, but still fairly alert.

Try the scopolamine first. It is a partch behind the ear. Eash cheesy. It may make you a little fuzzy headed, it may not. The ral issue with Scope is the ability to focus on small objects (reading a book, small writing on maps, focusing on small items through binocs). Start with it on land first. It isn't like this stuff is crack cocaine or something (grin). Try it. THen try it on the boat on a short run. Do be aware, that Scope does not stop after you take off the patch. I would guess you will have the effects for circa 6 hours afterwards. Be careful with it around kids. It is absorbed through the skin, so just picking it up will put it in your blood stream. But again, I don't think scope is a big deal at all and I cruise with kids. I take my safety and caution to a whole different level.

Phen can come in a suppository and also ODT and oral. It is not a big deal either. Try it land based first but put yourself in a position where you are doing something that requires some thinking (play a video game for example). I think you will find the drug side efects are mild. Check with your doctor on this, but I think the dosage for phen is 25-50 mg for adults, and 12.5 for kids. Phen is not addicitive too and worse case scenario you get sleepy - but it did not do that to me. THe ODT (orally dissolving tabs) are good because they cannot be thrown up and the suppositoruies the same.

Another good trick is eating and keeping a full stomach when sailing. That helps me and the kids. Keep lots of snacks like crackers and cheese. Toast is also good. Avoid spicy stuff. We actually fix several meals and put in freezer/fridge ahead of time because cooking at sea is a PITA. SOo there is another good hint. Also, drink LOTS of gatorade. It hydrates and the taste always helps us. Not too sweet but not too bland. Hydration at sea plus sea sickness is seerious business.

Ginger is not my drug of choice. Makes me burp and that always reminds me of the puking ginger smell and well... there you go. My wife swears by it. Each tot heir own. Point is that everyone has to find what works for them. SHe also wears a patch as do I for long runs. Better safe than sorry.

Get a bucket lined with multiple bags. I use a 5 gallon bucket. This is important because you can get the vomit out of sight and smell. ALso, nothing more dangerous than SH and puking over the side of the boat. When you are puking and sea sick, you are not thinkin straight.

SIgns of sea sick include lethargic, being quiet, no interest in looking around or doing things, watering mouth. The lethargic and lack of interst in doing anythin is th first sign that proceeds getting sick. Know the signs so that you have time to take a med to help through it. It can also be as simple as not going down below, getting a good breeze flowing through the cockpit, steering the boat, and splashing water in your face, or eatin something. Keep your stomach full.

I would not give up on sailing. However, I also would not go to sea (esp as a SH) knowing I was highly susceptible to being sea sick and could not get over it. Find your way around it. I have never met anyone that could not find a way around it. What that is for you, only you can tell.

All the best on your future adventures!!!

Brian
06-05-2012 07:00 PM
casey1999
Re: Do you personally get seasick?

Quote:
Originally Posted by xymotic View Post
Thanks everyone for the responses. So far I've tried mescaline (sp?) dramamine and I think benzodrine. They all seem to help, but put me to sleep quickly and for a long time. My 'plan' is to single hand so this obviously won't work.

So I'm reluctant to try vallium too because I think it zonks me out pretty completely.

I've also taken alavert, claratin and benodryl for pollen allergies I have, and I don't *think* they work, but I usually only take them inland where the pollen is

I do get sick in a car if I try to use a laptop for too long. I don't get sick in planes, but as a child I would barf every time so I guess I'm 'prone' to getting motion sick.

I'm also pretty adverse to meds you have to apply beforehand. I mean if you are departing a trip offshore, and take that to get over the initial period, are you fine afterward or are you just delaying the sick part & taking meds 24/7 on a long passage?

I guess the bottom line is I'd hate to spend a few years fixing up a boat and then selling it the day I get to Hawaii (assuming I survive 30 days of vomit)
The first time I went sailing I was fine on deck, but went below to make coffee for the skipper and lost my lunch, quickly went back on deck. After a few days was ok. Over the years, now I rarely get sea sick. I think the important thing is not to dwell on seasickness, wondering if you will get sick or not and what you will do if you get sick. Don't worry too much about it. If you feel sick and want to puke, then grab a bucket and do it, don't be shy. Don't worry what the skipper or crew think, just have a good puke. The worst thing you can do is to hold it in. Sometimes after a good puke and dry heave you feel great, go up in the wind and spray and breath the air and eat some soda crackers. Stay away from dairy products and grease food and meat and fruits. Eat pasta, breads, crackers, water and such. I try to stay away from medications.

I once did a three week passage with a mate that got sea sick the first day out, he laid in his bunk for 2-1/2 weeks without eating much but crackers and drinking some water. He had taken every med known and had wrists bands on and ear patches. His gums had turned white and we were all concerned about his health (he probably should have be evacuated of the boat), the last few days on the boat he overcame the sea sickness and began to recover. Funny thing was this guy never puked, probably would have fared better if he had puked the first few days and gotten over it.

I would take say a 5 day sail as a crew on boat type you are thinking of buying and see how you make out before you start on the big adventure.

I should also say when I am sailing, I do not feel the same as on land. My appetite is less and I only want to eat simple things like I mentioned. Maybe this is my natural response to fighting "sea sickness". Whatever you feel you need to do, do not fight it, that goes for what you feel like eating or if you feel you need to puke, just do what you feel you need to do.
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