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01-01-2013 09:28 PM
jimrafford
Re: How to secure a baby

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Swain View Post
Birth Control and chastity both work well.
Very nice. What a piece of dung you continue to show your self to be.
Jim
12-24-2012 07:04 PM
Brent Swain
Re: How to secure a baby

Birth Control and chastity both work well.
12-24-2012 08:29 AM
SailSnail
Re: How to secure a baby

Baby Bjorn - great suggestion. Thanks!
08-06-2012 12:02 PM
hellosailor
Re: How to secure a baby

"One debate is what to do with the infant when he is nursing topside. He should have a jacket on but nursing is difficult/impossible with jacket on."

Well, one might suggest that if you can't do something safely someplace, do it someplace else. Let him nurse BELOW DECK not topside.
08-06-2012 08:18 AM
engineer_sailor
How to secure a baby

We've had success with the car seat down below in the cabin in our new to us Catalina 27 for our infant who loves the motion of sailing and the engine noise. Our two year old wears his Mustang Lil Legends and does pretty well. My wife and I both have inflatables and make a point to wear them both for safety and to set an example for the little ones. One debate is what to do with the infant when he is nursing topside. He should have a jacket on but nursing is difficult/impossible with jacket on. Also leaning towards a tether for the toddler and likely lifeline netting.

For naps, the v-berth has worked out nicely at anchor as there is no open space with the insert in. We use a battery powered white noise machine.
07-31-2012 03:02 PM
chrisncate
Re: How to secure a baby

Regarding how to wake baby:

07-31-2012 01:01 PM
Brigala
Re: How to secure a baby

Having had a water birth... I can't imagine anything more uncomfortable than giving birth in a tub of cold water. Just sayin'.
07-31-2012 09:04 AM
bljones
Re: How to secure a baby

Please note that the above post is all second hand information as the poster does not have children yet. Take the info provided with a large grain of salt.
07-31-2012 03:05 AM
elspru
Re: How to secure a baby

Somewhat related, in terms of securing a baby for a life boating,
by making sure they are prepared in case they do fall in the water.

Children have swiming reflexes, such as holding breath, and moving limbs in swiming from motion from birth.
With regular practice they can incrementally improve their swimming abilities,
initial stages are conditioning, such as pouring water over the face, to trigger the breath holding reflex.
By 6-24 months children can be trained to flip themselves on their back if they fall in the water,
as well as do several seconds swiming, by 3 they can alternate to get to shore.

I think it's best to teach the kids personally,
so they can learn at their own pace with the loving care of their parents.


In terms of "cold-shock" as someone was mentioning about cold water,
this is something that is also completely dependentent on practice and conditioning.

For instance since I was an adolescent my friends and I would brake holes in the ice and go for dips in the winter.
even swiming when it's only a thin layer that can be broken easily.
Though to be safe it's best to keep winter-swims to under a minute,
a properly conditioned person could have fine motor function even for 10 minutes,
and swim as long as 30 minutes even in freezing water with limb movement.
Children have been known to recover from being hypothermacally unconscious for as long as an hour.

Main thing is to have rewarming after any hypothermic experience, preferably while dry,
if it is only mild, and the person is experienced, can passively raise own temperature,
if not, then may need active external heating such as other people, or sauna.
In case of severe hyopthermia (unconsciousness) active internal heating,
such as hot humid air like cpr could work, in combination with others.

When my friends when for dips into the salty pool,
we would run back to the sauna to heat up afterwards.
For good self-passive heating, it's important to eat fats,
especially unsaturated fats like those in nuts and seeds.
Tumo "breath of fire" a rapid breathing meditation is also effective for rewarming.

In terms of physical conditioning, can do so with cool, and then cold showers,
which are healthy, improve immune and organ function anyways,
and lower the chances of you getting cold from a breeze.

I know some parents that did cold showers with their kids,
daily since they were very young till they did it themselves,
and managed to avoid most (possibly all) childhood diseases.
they did it based on Porphyry Ivanov's teachings, who recomends ice cold water

Also note that the mammalian diving reflex is triggered by water under 21Celsius (70f) on the face.
So if doing water birth, it may be a good idea to have relatively (to western hot baths) chilly water,
If doing water conditioning that range would also be most useful for actually triggering the reflex.


edit to add:
note that water under 26 celcius for prolonged periods of time can induce hypothermia,
so likely some kind of compromise is best, likely over 26 and bellow body temperature (36).
06-08-2012 06:08 PM
MITBeta
Re: How to secure a baby

We have taken a car seat on fin keel daysailors (Rhodes 19) as a place to put an infant if a 2nd set of hands was needed in a pinch. HOWEVER, we never strapped our kid into it. He could sit in the seat with his PFD on just fine. And depending on your definition of infant, the straps are for a crash, not to keep the kid from getting out of the seat. Another good option is the seat Cruisingdad shows here:

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Originally Posted by Cruisingdad View Post




Brian
Not nearly as heavy as a car seat, but a good restraint, with or without the strap on.
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