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08-12-2012 03:55 AM
SimonV
Re: Bump in the night

What we do when picking up a mooring buoy is drop a small truck inner tube over the pennant and buoy. It is attached to the boat by a small line for easy retrieval when the mooring is dropped.
08-12-2012 12:12 AM
capta
Re: Bump in the night

Gee, how about wrapping the mooring ball in an old life jacket?
Simple, cheap & easy.
Remember. it's banging the boat when you're not there too.
06-28-2012 12:28 PM
hellosailor
Re: Bump in the night

We've used the noodles. Not a 100% solution but they DO work a lot of the time. Put a zip-tie every 6" to hold them on.
06-28-2012 12:20 PM
Bene505
Re: Bump in the night

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Originally Posted by Bene505 View Post
The problem is that your pennant lines sink. That little bit of weight is magnified by the obtuse angle of the line when the boat is farthest from the float. (Think small child at a pool, standing on the lap-lane floats. The small child exerts massive amounts of pull on the connection points.) Make it so the pennants float along a section of their length and you won't have the problem.

Ditto for the dinghy pennant.

Regards,
Brad
Last weekend in the northwest corner of Port Jefferson harbor, I saw a mooring that had each pennant go through a "noodle" like kids use in pools. I thought of this thread but didn't get a picture. Some versions of those noodles have a hole down the length of it, just like the one's I saw.

This is great because 1) it floats (as I mentioned above) and 2) it's rigid enough to help keep the bow some distance away from the mooring ball.

Here you can see the type of noodle I mean:


Do not get this kind of noodle. Although it looks the same, it's different.


And of course, get an extra one for your dinghy painter.

If you don't want to thread your mooring line through -- perhaps because you have nice spliced loops on the ends and you forgot your fid at home -- you can split the noodle down the length and slide the morring line in place. Just use a few zipties to keep it in place afterward.


One downside is that you'll have to clear the young children off your mooring lines before you get underway. These things attract kids like barnacles to a new rudder.

Photo credit Sol Mate yacht charter - got it off their website, no other affiliation

Regards,
Brad
06-12-2012 08:28 PM
HUGOSALT
Re: Bump in the night

Have tried small 10 lb dinghy anchor set of the stern with a
good size elastic bungy tied into the anchor line (set up like
a snubber) works as long as things don't change much.
Have not tried following overnight...
if benign conditions expected to last the night moor to stern cleat with extended mooring line looped to mooring line and then
run dinghy painter through said loop and pull painter in and tie off.
Dinghy should stay off stern. Stern should provide enough surface resistance to stay off mooring ball...or not??
06-12-2012 06:55 PM
Bene505
Re: Bump in the night

The problem is that your pennant lines sink. That little bit of weight is magnified by the obtuse angle of the line when the boat is farthest from the float. (Think small child at a pool, standing on the lap-lane floats. The small child exerts massive amounts of pull on the connection points.) Make it so the pennants float along a section of their length and you won't have the problem.

Ditto for the dinghy pennant.

Regards,
Brad
06-12-2012 05:05 PM
CalebD
Re: Bump in the night

I looked for a diagram that would show what I intend to describe but no luck. On our mooring the chain is shackled to a large metal ring (6" dia. x 1" stock). The ring is the attachment point for our pennants AND the ball. If we wanted to take the ball off we would attach the pennants as per normal, then pull the pennants up to the ring and disconnect the shackle for the ball. Viola!
We don't do this but many others at our club do as they don't like the mooring ball chafing their finely waxed hulls. My boat is 45 years old and a little ball chafing is to be expected at that age!
We also use a soft inflatable ball, not a hard one.

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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
Not sure how that would work.
The chain comes up through the hole in the ball and has a shackle that connects the pennants at the top of the ball. The shackle will not drop through the hole.

If I haul enough I will start pulling chain aboard but the ball stays in the water.

If I disconnect that shackle I could easily drop the chain.

I think your guys have the pennants connected to the bottom of the ball.
06-12-2012 01:05 PM
erps
Re: Bump in the night

We had a baby seal nursing on our boat last summer. Woke us up early in the morning. When we pulled anchor and left, it was crying. Silly seal.
06-12-2012 10:32 AM
hellosailor
Re: Bump in the night

You're sure it wasn't an amorous sea lion? (G)

Sometimes a small riding sail on the backstay will help. But when the air is still and the current reverses, or wind blows you back against the ball...it is just going to bump.

Throwing out a smaller stern anchor and pulling back from the ball might do it.

For dinks, there was a post online some year ago about using two pieces of heavy wall PVC tubing over a "V" bridle off the stern. The idea being that the dink can only get so close, and then the "V" (pointy end at the dink) keeps it back off your transom. Two or three bucks for a stick of PVC pipe to slide over existing lines, if you want to try it. Recommended at that time for towing, so the dink wouldn't surf up and keep hitting the transom.

But you're sure it wasn't an amorous sea lion? You know, especially if you have a gray inflatable....(G)
06-12-2012 10:22 AM
erps
Re: Bump in the night

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f I haul enough I will start pulling chain aboard but the ball stays in the water.
On our boat, we haul up on the chain so about a foot of chain is out of the water. The chain hangs straight down and keeps the ball away from the boat. The ball will slide up and down on the chain, but it will be straight up and down. We have enough overhang that this works. As Jack said, this won't work with plumb bows.
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