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06-15-2012 04:32 PM
Dog Ship
Re: Cored decks?

If "you" reread "your" first post "you" will find that "you" are wrong in "your" statements.
Please try to pay attention to the topic.
Thank you for your input.
06-15-2012 03:06 PM
sailingfool
Re: Cored decks?

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Since two people today have already posted personal experience with cored decks that go completely against what sailingfool says, I am led to believe it is he who is mystified not I.
You seem to have trouble keeping ideas straight.

I dont see any post but yours which argues an experienced surveyor wont recognize cored areas. For example Faster's comments about cored panel use doesn't touch on a typical surveyor's skills in any regard.

You are welcome to disagree, but try standing on your own two feet, as unsteady as you may be.
06-15-2012 01:51 PM
Dog Ship
Re: Cored decks?

Since two people today have already posted personal experience with cored decks that go completely against what sailingfool says, I am led to believe it is he who is mystified not I.
06-15-2012 01:43 PM
sailingfool
Re: Cored decks?

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It's obviously not general knowledge, as Faster has stated that some of his boats vertical surfaces are cored where on some boats they are not cored.
I would be left to assume that some horizontal surfaces may not be cored as well.
How would you know unless you were the one who built the boat....
It rediculous to think someone would know all of that, really dude.
To be more precise, its general knowledge ... a surveyor would have. I would not suggest that all surveyors know all things, just that those who have been around will throughly know the construction of common production boats. At least that is my experience.

That it may be mystifying to you doesn't make it mystifying to people who make knowing such information their job.
06-15-2012 11:21 AM
Dog Ship
Re: Cored decks?

Being omiscient is "the" problem with all surveyors or at least the belief that they're omiscient is the problem. But that's a catch 22.
I can see flat areas on the cabin top that are obviously ment for mounting hardware and winches but I will have to mount some things where I do not believe it was intended to mount hardware. Most of the hardware I will be mounting will have a lateral force on it as opposed to a vertical upward pull. So if I have to, I can drill a much larger hole through the liner and use large washers or custom made plates for backing. I was hoping for a little more than a bolt through 1/4"-3/8" of fiberglass and a washer holding it all together. Enlarging the hole through the liner to get some backing in place may be an issue in some areas of the interior. I will have to take a much closer look.
06-15-2012 11:00 AM
CharlieCobra
Re: Cored decks?

Surveyors are not omiscient. I recently had one who was well recommended, been a wood boat surveyor for more than fifty years, swear up and down that the K-50 he was surveying, did not have cotton caulking. Until I dug out a strand.....
06-15-2012 09:55 AM
chef2sail
Re: Cored decks?

In our 35 MKIII the verticle sides and anything related to the cabin are cored including the verticlke sides near the companionway. The deck is cored as is all of the cabin top.

The rest of the cockpit verticle surfaces there is very little coring except on the surfaces where the winches are bedded.

Dave
06-15-2012 09:24 AM
Dog Ship
Re: Cored decks?

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Any junior surveyor will have the expertise to know where a boat has cored panels or not, as its general knowledge.
It's obviously not general knowledge, as Faster has stated that some of his boats vertical surfaces are cored where on some boats they are not cored.
I would be left to assume that some horizontal surfaces may not be cored as well.
How would you know unless you were the one who built the boat.
And then there are all of the technics and different ways of construction that C&C has experimented with over the years, there is no way in the world someone is going to know all that.
Let alone all of the other manufacturers who have been changing construction methods over the years.
It rediculous to think someone would know all of that, really dude.
06-15-2012 09:08 AM
sailingfool
Re: Cored decks?

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That will make things interesting. One would think a corded deck is a cored deck. .... I wonder how many boats have been miss-surveyed as having rotten cores when there may have been no core there at all, ever. Hhhmmm
The deck would not include the cabin sides nor the cabin top.

Any junior surveyor will have the expertise to know where a boat has cored panels or not, as its general knowledge.
06-15-2012 08:31 AM
Dog Ship
Re: Cored decks?

That will make things interesting. One would think a corded deck is a cored deck.
I added a bunch of stuff to my mast when I had it out and rerigged a few things. It has caused rigging chaos on deck. I will need to move some cheek blocks around and add a double jam cleat for my two genoa halyards, an extra winch for the two spinnaker halyards will be nice too.
Beyond drilling a hole to see if something is there I guess I will just hold my breath while drilling.
This also brought up something else to think about. I wonder how many boats have been miss-surveyed as having rotten cores when there may have been no core there at all, ever. Hhhmmm
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