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07-01-2012 10:48 AM
RobGallagher
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

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Originally Posted by amyspins View Post
It would just be nice to go up to a dock to fill up with fuel and water - rather than having to lug it all out there in the dingy.

amy
The moorings on the other side of the point are calmer, there is fuel/water/ice available from the fuel docks.

I'm on a town mooring G26 ENE of Abbots... White C&C 30, swing by and say hi if you are over there or PM me if you ever want to daysail or even practice manuvering during the week. My girlfriend and I are out there most Wed/Thurs unless the weather is really crap.
07-01-2012 10:29 AM
amyspins
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

Rob - I'm moored right around the point in Noank - at Spicers. I did what you suggested- I went out on a quiet day and tried backing around the towboat mooring- people probably thought I was crazy - out there motoring around in circles backwards. I guess it's just going to take lots of practice. It would just be nice to go up to a dock to fill up with fuel and water - rather than having to lug it all out there in the dingy.

Thanks everyone for all your advice! What I wouldn't give to buy a few years of experience!

Paul K - thanks -where are you? I'd love to talk to some other H-28 owners.

amy
07-01-2012 09:57 AM
RobGallagher
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

Are you in Mystic?

There are a couple of unused private mooring balls on the outside of the mooring field off Abbots...
I'm on a mooring so I get little docking practice. If I'm bored and there is no wind I sometimes head out and use one of these empty moorings as a target for backing, stopping, etc.
Start at slack tide, then as the current builds you can see how it effects your boat.
07-01-2012 03:24 AM
paul323
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

If your problem is backing, then join the club - backing up is often a bear with longer keels. Some tricks which may help - build up a bit of backwards speed before you start the turn; and if you have propwalk/offset prop, you may want to try building up some momentum and then popping the engine into neutral before you turn. For me if I have the prop engaged moving at a "slow walking speed" the best I can do in one direction is go straight - I can never turn!

..which is why I tend to walk my boat out of the slip (backwards), not power her out....

...but on the good side, if you can master things your propwalk sometimes allows you to back into a slip, turning in at an outrageous angle!
06-30-2012 11:49 PM
paulk
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

We sailed an H-28 with an offset 2-bladed prop for many years. Propwalk has already been mentioned, along with planning ahead so as to turn the "best" way whenever possible. You may also be affected by stuff growing on the propeller. This will make the propwalk worse and since the propeller is not pushing the boat very well you go slower and therefore the steering is worse too. Take a swim & make sure the prop is clean. Have fun! We're lucky to have two H-28 bowsprit-rigged ketches in our harbor. They're beautiful boats.
06-27-2012 10:09 PM
amyspins
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

thanks for the offer - I have a 2 blade and the boat is in the water for the seaon - I'll keep that in mind, though, when I have the boat hauled.

Cheers!
Amy
06-27-2012 09:39 PM
TQA
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

I too have a boat that has a mind of it's own in reverse. If I had to manouvre in tight spaces on a regular basis I would fit a bow thruster,
06-27-2012 08:52 PM
Sea Dawg
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

Good advice on "prop walk". Add to that you need to learn to only expect the rudder to turn the boat when there's water moving across it. On your approach use it one last time before there's no flow across it. As stated above, don't rely on rudder in the astern direction if possible....mostly ineffective. Add to that, your use of engine needs to be in short but strong bursts. Sometimes a skipper will think it needs to be slow and gentle when a quick short burst will have the desired effect.
06-27-2012 08:19 PM
Familycruisers
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

I just got my boat this past winter. Spent an entire afternoon putting around the anchorage and then sticking it in and out of slips. Practice, practice, practice. All boats, especially full keelers, have their own tendancies. Learn em, love em!
06-27-2012 04:11 PM
Barquito
Re: Beastly boat to manuever

Because of prop walk, and the offset prop position, you will be able to turn sharper in one direction than the other. Plan for this on the approach. This is something you can check out while doing circles in forward and reverse. Just remember to do as many circles in one direction as the other, or you will get dizzy.
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