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Topic Review (Newest First)
10-18-2012 05:58 PM
ScottUK
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

Sailing Around the Racecourse: Basic Sailboat Racing Tips by Steve Hunt | Sailing World
10-18-2012 07:40 AM
charlie000
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

I love the idea of looking at the race afterwards. The OpenCPN does a great job.
Now I am wondering if I can download a log from my skippers hi falutin Garmin plotter.
It seems to be able to send a track as an .ADM file. Now to get a SD card and start playing.
You've inpired me!
07-01-2012 12:59 PM
ccriders
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
Light air prep:
Dump fuel
Dump water
Dump batteries (except one small one)
Dump spares
Dump any padlocks
Have crew empty out their pockets before leaving dock, trim fingernails, take laxatives.

THEN we really start paring dead weight. :-)
In the bicycle world people used to drill holes in their frames and take spokes out of their wheels. I even saw one guy drill holes in his rims. It wasn't until carbon fiber was commonplace that they stopped doing this.
So add to your list:
Drill holes in the mast.
Take off a couple of shrouds.
Get thinner standing rigging.
Drill holes in the deck and freeboard.
Cut off the tiller.
or
Buy a carbon fiber racing sled.
Racing can drive you crazy, but it sure is fun to sail tight and do well.
07-01-2012 12:36 PM
puddinlegs
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbleheadMd View Post
I hear you man. For the local races:

I usually race with only 1/4 tank of fuel. Good
I only keep about 3 gallons in the potable water tank.

A gallon jug is all you need.

I only care the sail of the day, plus spinnaker.

Our weather is all over the map, so sails stay on the boat. Additional sails might be brought on for specific courses/races. Stack them on the cabin sole in the main salon

I only keep an impeller, distributor cap and a little oil onboard for the engine.

Stuff I could legally do:
Remove one battery. One for near shore, two for off.

Offload some of my tool kit.
We keep the tools. It's amazing what you'll need and when. That said, we're pretty efficient and compact.

Offload any non-original cushions.

Offload the cruising kit of plates, bowls, cups, flatware.
A couple of paper cups and plates are good to have around and weigh nothing.

Carry a smaller anchor and rode for local racing.
Not carry as much beer, rum and soda (Pfft, yeah right!)
High tech sails. Buy an Olson 30.
Lighter running rigging. Strip the covers

To comply with local PHRF rules, I cannot:
Remove factory installed furniture.
Remove factory cushions. Take out your v berth cushions. No one keeps them in. They get trashed if left in.

Remove factory equipment (stove top, toilet, etc)

Cannot (and would not) race without an anchor.

To make matters worse, I have installed a shore power system, so that's a little extra weight. (Blue Sea Systems AC panel, outlets, battery charger)

Very little

I cruise too, and shuffling the gear on and off the boat for racing is a lot of work, but I don't mind.
Dude, there's so much and Olson 30 in your future that it hurts to know you're not already sailing one.

Seriously though, isn't this an evening beer can? Keeping extra crap out of the boat is one thing, but 'extreme' stripping of the boat for a beer can seems a little over the top... at least until you have new sails... or an Olson 30, which ever is cheaper.
07-01-2012 11:07 AM
BubbleheadMd
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
Light air prep:
Dump fuel
Dump water
Dump batteries (except one small one)
Dump spares
Dump any padlocks
Have crew empty out their pockets before leaving dock, trim fingernails, take laxatives.

THEN we really start paring dead weight. :-)
I hear you man. For the local races:

I usually race with only 1/4 tank of fuel.
I only keep about 3 gallons in the potable water tank.
I only care the sail of the day, plus spinnaker.
I only keep an impeller, distributor cap and a little oil onboard for the engine.

Stuff I could legally do:
Remove one battery.
Offload some of my tool kit.
Offload any non-original cushions.
Offload the cruising kit of plates, bowls, cups, flatware.
Carry a smaller anchor and rode for local racing.
Not carry as much beer, rum and soda (Pfft, yeah right!)
High tech sails.
Lighter running rigging.

To comply with local PHRF rules, I cannot:
Remove factory installed furniture.
Remove factory cushions.
Remove factory equipment (stove top, toilet, etc)
Cannot (and would not) race without an anchor.

To make matters worse, I have installed a shore power system, so that's a little extra weight. (Blue Sea Systems AC panel, outlets, battery charger)

I cruise too, and shuffling the gear on and off the boat for racing is a lot of work, but I don't mind.
06-30-2012 07:36 PM
hellosailor
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

Light air prep:
Dump fuel
Dump water
Dump batteries (except one small one)
Dump spares
Dump any padlocks
Have crew empty out their pockets before leaving dock, trim fingernails, take laxatives.

THEN we really start paring dead weight. :-)
06-30-2012 04:47 PM
BubbleheadMd
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
I can see the tack near F to avoid the shoals, but then once you'd gone North towards X, couldn't ou have played that leg further north and then avoided a couple of more tacks on the way back west again?

Not knowing any local currents or rounding requirements that may be a dumb question. Or were you just tacking to cover the competition?

Sailboat racing. Just like poker, a simple game with a small rulebook.
We call that "banging the corners" of the course. It's very difficult to accurately call a lay line so far away. I've constantly been advised not to try, and to just make a few extra tacks. Yet, frequent tacking impairs speed, so what to do?

The wind was fading fast, and after each tack, I'd fall off a bit to build speed, and find myself not driving where I wanted to go, so in this instance you're probably correct.

If I'd had more breeze, I probably would have pointed better, not need to drive to "X", and not needed some of those tacks.

There are several things I can do to help mitigate the poor pointing in light air:

Not carry a full crew.
Buy a new, high tech genoa.
Empty out the boat some more.
Replace my running rigging with light, high tech stuff.

It's a process.
06-30-2012 12:55 PM
hellosailor
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

I can see the tack near F to avoid the shoals, but then once you'd gone North towards X, couldn't ou have played that leg further north and then avoided a couple of more tacks on the way back west again?

Not knowing any local currents or rounding requirements that may be a dumb question. Or were you just tacking to cover the competition?

Sailboat racing. Just like poker, a simple game with a small rulebook.
06-30-2012 08:32 AM
BubbleheadMd Yes, always the same marks and there is a mark up on the Rhode. With the marks we have, there are 22 possible courses.
06-29-2012 07:59 PM
CalebD
Re: Just for kicks and grins...

I actually like the fixed "Jokers Wild" starting line idea.
I suppose you always use the same marks then?
Or do they sometimes use a mark up the mouth of the Rhode River?
I watched a Sunday race from the West River group while anchored in the Rhode once.
Beautiful area but definitely shallow and that bump is always possible.

It is nice to be able to visualize your track on the chart and figure out the
"good, bad and the ugly" as a race postmortem procedure.
We usually do this without the aid of such a nicely laid out chart.
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