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07-10-2012 06:13 PM
peterchech
Re: 3 Rescued from Sailboat on LI Sound

Listen when you are first learning you get things thrown out at you that you don't know how to handle. When everything goes wrong at the same time, well, experience or no experience things get dicey.

Here's my guess. The wind picked up. When they tried to furl, the furler jammed. So they tried dropping the jib (actually I bet it was a genoa), prob without knowing to take the step of running downwind first and using the main to block the genoa. So they now have this huge sail flapping violently as the wind increases. They try to take it down, and it rips out of the luff and falls into the water. Now it's wrapped around everything under the waterline, waves are bouncing this boat all over the place, gusts are heeling the boat waaaay over (all that drag under the hull makes this worse), they all are beginning to have hypothermia, none of them have ever seen anything like this so they are scared and at this point don't know what to do. Motoring is not an option, and they don't know what to do anymore.

One thing going wrong never downs a plane, it is always many small things going wrong and compounding into a big big problem. Experience allows you to prevent or at least fix the small problems before they spiral. Inexperience leads to the story at the center of this thread. I don't think it is fair to be so harsh on these guys, they clearly were in over their heads but I think any of us could have been there on the first few sails we ever took. They should have known better than heading out into the sound without any real experience or weather forecasting, but only experience could have told them that, no?
07-06-2012 09:37 PM
souljour2000
Re: 3 Rescued from Sailboat on LI Sound

Gotta love the "perp walk" walk of shame photo...classic...Not how you want to get on the news but at least they werent driving drunk.well..er...maybe not.. or beating up wifie, etc,...Hopefully they don't give up the sport and instead get some lessons with an experienced sailor aboard...there may be hope yet but chances are they'll roll back to the couch and joyfully joysticking the demise of zombies and stealing cars for kicks...somehow I will feel safer if they do...
07-06-2012 07:16 PM
Sea Dawg
Re: 3 Rescued from Sailboat on LI Sound

I believe the boat was capable.
07-06-2012 07:11 PM
melee401
Re: 3 Rescued from Sailboat on LI Sound

Pretty boat,,,,,too bad that
09-20-2011 01:26 PM
tommays Don't know what happened other than its alleged they turned down the salvage price which would have left it on the beach getting a smackdown from the several days of 15 to 30 knot steady NE wind which really kicks up the long island side sea state
09-20-2011 12:54 PM
NaviGsr Tommays

They get her off the beach yet? Or should I come over and give you a hand
09-18-2011 09:23 PM
smackdaddy
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Originally Posted by Tempest View Post
One of the stages of Hypothermia is confusion, loss of judgment. Compounded by lack of experience..would lead to pushing the panic button.
The picture in the article showed them in shorts and T-shirts..
Let's see, confusion, loss of judgment...so they were obviously suffering from hypothermia before they even boarded the boat!
09-18-2011 06:34 PM
Tempest
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Originally Posted by smurphny View Post
Hard to tell if the boat is at ht line from the picture but probably is. Nothing a couple of stout kedges, come-alongs and some shovels can't solve. The news said that they called that they were sinking. I wonder from what? This looks like a case of 0 experience and panic. Too bad the owner got caught in a blow before he had time to learn a little more...ok a lot more. Hope he can get her off the beach. He could probably even give one of the local commercial guys a few bucks to drag him off...it's not like it's an ocean liner.
One of the stages of Hypothermia is confusion, loss of judgment. Compounded by lack of experience..would lead to pushing the panic button.
The picture in the article showed them in shorts and T-shirts..
09-18-2011 06:15 PM
Argyle38 Unbelievable, I highly doubt they were seeing sustained 40 kts. Sounds like the 25-30 Gusts to 40 to be more likely. I was out in the same stuff last Sunday. It was a lively day. Practiced heaving-to. Good times.

Edit - For some reason I thought that I read that someone claimed that they were seeing sustained 40 kts, but it was only gusts to 40. Still, I can't believe anyone would abandon ship in such conditions. Methinks they need another hobby.
09-18-2011 04:01 PM
smurphny Hard to tell if the boat is at ht line from the picture but probably is. Nothing a couple of stout kedges, come-alongs and some shovels can't solve. The news said that they called that they were sinking. I wonder from what? This looks like a case of 0 experience and panic. Too bad the owner got caught in a blow before he had time to learn a little more...ok a lot more. Hope he can get her off the beach. He could probably even give one of the local commercial guys a few bucks to drag him off...it's not like it's an ocean liner.
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