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07-13-2012 06:23 PM
Jeff_H
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

I really love small trimarrans in a totally irrational way. (I once designed a 23 footer so that be constructed in a friend's living room but that's another story) And this looks like a very nice one at a seemingly reasonable asking price......[

BUT (and that is a very big but) small trimarrans make lousy distance cruisers. No matter how spartan you are willing to live, a live aboard or a long distance cruiser needs to be able to hold a whole bunch of stuff; sailing gear, ground tackle, water, fuel, food and a place to cook it, and a place to dispose of the above and so on. And that is where small tri's lose out.

In large part, Tri's get their speed and safety from having narrow, low resistance hulls with minimal weight. These hullforms do not provide a lot of living space, but even more significantly, they do not provide a lot of surplus carrying capacity. To get up to a reasonable level of living space and carrying capacity, tri's need to get pretty large.

And the thing is that tri's are comparatively expensive to build. They require careful construction if they are going to be strong and light enough. They require good materials and a great design if they are going to sail well and be sturdy. And collectively, that makes for a comparatively expensive live aboard.

There are old pivers and browns out there at comparatively low prices, but these do not offer the performance gains of a boat like the one in question, and can be serious money pits besides.
07-13-2012 06:06 PM
peterchech
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

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Originally Posted by blistovmhz View Post
And I pose the same question to you Where do you find a bigger tri for this price? At this point I'm seriously considering buying out of country. Prices are good here, but there are very few tri's available for under $200k.
I agree. Seems the multihull thing never got off in the new world the way it did in europe. I have been on plenty of UK yacht sales websites and you can find plenty of older used multis under 20K, especially cats. Here it seems you are stuck with piggy condomarans and the occasional Farrier. Certainly there is little available for under 50K and anything under 100K will be daysailor only (ie f-24s and such).
07-13-2012 05:06 PM
blistovmhz
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

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Originally Posted by bljones View Post
I love multihulls. I love cold moulded boats. At least once a month i have to be talked out of pulling the trigger on buying a neglected tri while slowly building a livable small cat. But there are limitations, for example...

Good luck doing dishes in that sink. to enlarge the sink means reworking the entire galley, to rework the entire galley means reworking the saloon... It looks to be an acceptable weekender but hard to live aboard.

Try this, for less:
36' Refurbished Columbia - Delta/Surrey/Langley Sailboats For Sale - Kijiji Delta/Surrey/Langley Canada.

or this for slightly more...

S2 9.2 Centre Cockpit Sailboat - Greater Vancouver Area Sailboats For Sale - Kijiji Greater Vancouver Area Canada.
Didn't notice that 36 columbia yet. Talked to the broker, got the 4yo survey which looks good. The deck core was toast and was completely redone last year. I'm not really sure how to check for hull delamination though other than just tapping EVERYWHERE. Are the Columbia's hulls cored as well?
07-13-2012 04:32 PM
bljones
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

I know of a Piver Lodestar for sale locally fur under $10K. Pm for details and contact info.
07-13-2012 04:32 PM
brak
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

Is this a wooden boat? The description talks about foam core and epoxy, didn't notice the wood part. Interior does have quite a bit of wood - but that's another story entirely.

If it wasn't that far - I'd buy it today, sight-unseen, at that price. Only the thought of having to then ship it all the way across the continent is stopping me from doing so

Not as a liveaboard though (but then again, I wouldn't live on a 40' boat either - more importantly, if you live on a boat, chances of sailing diminish - and then why would you need a multihull? )
07-13-2012 03:54 PM
blistovmhz
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

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Originally Posted by peterchech View Post
That is a very good deal for a round bilged trimaran, even a wood one. Is it a folder? If so finding a slip should be no more expensive than for a monohull.

Just realize that a 32' trimaran has about the same amount of interior space as a significantly smaller monohull. For purely living aboard, a much bigger monohull can be bought for that amount of money. However if you are a sailor, it is hard to beat a proper trimaran. You can hang out on the decks/tramps in comfort (in good weather), there's no heeling, and you get where you are going VERY fast. All the advantatges of shallow draft apply as well.

So if you plan on actually cruising and sailing places, it looks like a great deal (get another survey though because wood rots, esp in the bilges). For purely living aboard, esp in winter, a bigger monohull would have its obvious advantages however.
And I pose the same question to you Where do you find a bigger tri for this price? At this point I'm seriously considering buying out of country. Prices are good here, but there are very few tri's available for under $200k.
07-13-2012 03:21 PM
bljones
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

A 25' long 13' wide "couple's cat,"- sails 8, eats six, sleeps two. Basically we have taken what we love about Whiskeyjack and Legacy, our two boats added what we wished we had, packaged it in a package that will still fit Dock Six, and a format that a moron like me could successfully build.
Dock Six Chronicles: Tying Up Loose Ends, Volume Three: Report from the Skunkworks
07-13-2012 02:59 PM
peterchech
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

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Originally Posted by bljones View Post
I love multihulls. I love cold moulded boats. At least once a month i have to be talked out of pulling the trigger on buying a neglected tri while slowly building a livable small cat.
What are you building?
07-13-2012 02:58 PM
peterchech
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

That is a very good deal for a round bilged trimaran, even a wood one. Is it a folder? If so finding a slip should be no more expensive than for a monohull.

Just realize that a 32' trimaran has about the same amount of interior space as a significantly smaller monohull. For purely living aboard, a much bigger monohull can be bought for that amount of money. However if you are a sailor, it is hard to beat a proper trimaran. You can hang out on the decks/tramps in comfort (in good weather), there's no heeling, and you get where you are going VERY fast. All the advantatges of shallow draft apply as well.

So if you plan on actually cruising and sailing places, it looks like a great deal (get another survey though because wood rots, esp in the bilges). For purely living aboard, esp in winter, a bigger monohull would have its obvious advantages however.
07-13-2012 12:55 AM
bljones
Re: 32' Trimaran - $22k

I love multihulls. I love cold moulded boats. At least once a month i have to be talked out of pulling the trigger on buying a neglected tri while slowly building a livable small cat. But there are limitations, for example...

Good luck doing dishes in that sink. to enlarge the sink means reworking the entire galley, to rework the entire galley means reworking the saloon... It looks to be an acceptable weekender but hard to live aboard.

Try this, for less:
36' Refurbished Columbia - Delta/Surrey/Langley Sailboats For Sale - Kijiji Delta/Surrey/Langley Canada.

or this for slightly more...

S2 9.2 Centre Cockpit Sailboat - Greater Vancouver Area Sailboats For Sale - Kijiji Greater Vancouver Area Canada.
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