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08-15-2012 04:38 PM
sharkbait
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

Sailed my E27 SF offshore to SD in oct 09 got caught in a pretty heavy gale 120 nm
off LA. Boat handled it well.

You can read an article about it online
latitude 38 ebook nov 09 pg 74
08-15-2012 12:40 PM
SlowButSteady
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

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Originally Posted by oneshotonekill View Post
I'm also looking at an upper 20's boat. Sabre is at the top of my list, followed by Erickson and Catalina. I did some calculations based on LOA, LWL, Beam, Ballast, Displacement, and etc., and I feel most comfortable with the Sabre. this is also do to what I've heard about build quality. Of course, if it's not been maintained in years, it's likely a dog - pure and simple. since I'm new at this, does it sound like I'm on track?
You might want to also consider the Cal 2-27 and 3-27 (I have a 2-27). Their build quality is on a par with Ericson. Ericsons were built with quite a bit more wood in the interior, making them a nicer looking boat on the inside. The Cals were a bit more Spartan than the Ericson 27, but also a bit faster than either the Ericson 27 or the Catalina 27.
08-15-2012 11:01 AM
reed1v
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

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Originally Posted by oneshotonekill View Post
So, out of curiosity if nothing else, would you own. I'm married but not to a particular make of boat.
i like to sail long distances to really wierd places so prefer full/cutaway keels, aft cockpit, low freeboard, split rigs. rhodes, hans christians, pacific seacraft, and other similar builders made such. try pre 1980 with lead ballast. the lower center of gravity with lead really makes a difference. most of the time your sailing trades so will go at hull speed regardless how heavy or light you are. size of boat not as important as being able to single hand the boat. if you go the distance, you will hit things, be run into, and experience all sorts of mishaps. what you wont get usually are bad storms, angry whales, nor run down in the night. rare. but if you do, a tough all glass boat from the 70s will keep you safer than most of the thin plastics now being made. designers: luders, crealock, rhodes and similar types. have had 2 luders, 1 crealock, 1 yamaha, 1 ranger, and an incredibly old crocker. if your gong to just day sail or stay on the coastal routes, then any plastic will do.
08-15-2012 08:20 AM
oneshotonekill
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

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Originally Posted by reed1v View Post
not sure what record your referring to. folks have sailed cal 20s, an oday daysailor, and other assorted flotsam to hawaii and calif from japan. heck, you could float a log that distance(btw someone did "sail" a log from washington state to hawaii way back in the 70s.) i even sailed a yamaha 33 from japan to hawaii years ago. still, imho ericson boats are not as good as sabre boats. btw: i would not own either one.
So, out of curiosity if nothing else, would you own. I'm married but not to a particular make of boat.
08-14-2012 09:04 PM
reed1v
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

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Originally Posted by mikel1 View Post
An E27 held the record for a while between Japan and San Fran. . . .one of the things they are known for is the build quality! . . . Sabre . . . Catalina!? Really?
not sure what record your referring to. folks have sailed cal 20s, an oday daysailor, and other assorted flotsam to hawaii and calif from japan. heck, you could float a log that distance(btw someone did "sail" a log from washington state to hawaii way back in the 70s.) i even sailed a yamaha 33 from japan to hawaii years ago. still, imho ericson boats are not as good as sabre boats. btw: i would not own either one.
08-14-2012 08:27 PM
mikel1
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

An E27 held the record for a while between Japan and San Fran. . . .one of the things they are known for is the build quality! . . . Sabre . . . Catalina!? Really?
08-14-2012 10:08 AM
reed1v
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

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Originally Posted by oneshotonekill View Post
I'm also looking at an upper 20's boat. Sabre is at the top of my list, followed by Erickson and Catalina. I did some calculations based on LOA, LWL, Beam, Ballast, Displacement, and etc., and I feel most comfortable with the Sabre. this is also do to what I've heard about build quality. Of course, if it's not been maintained in years, it's likely a dog - pure and simple. since I'm new at this, does it sound like I'm on track?
yes, sabres are way above the other two in quality and seaworthiness. imho ericsons should not be allowed on the open ocean. ok for lakes and bays. butler's catalinas have proven themselves worldwide but tender boats. sabres have proven themselves in hurricanes, extreme climates, etc. think you will find sabre relatively easy to bring back to bristol condition. doubt if you will find even an abused one that has structural problems. now about those decks that pop free of the hulls in the other brand....
08-14-2012 09:57 AM
oneshotonekill
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

I'm also looking at an upper 20's boat. Sabre is at the top of my list, followed by Erickson and Catalina. I did some calculations based on LOA, LWL, Beam, Ballast, Displacement, and etc., and I feel most comfortable with the Sabre. this is also do to what I've heard about build quality. Of course, if it's not been maintained in years, it's likely a dog - pure and simple. since I'm new at this, does it sound like I'm on track?
07-16-2012 10:42 PM
reed1v
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

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Originally Posted by blt2ski View Post
There are three E27's on my dock, they go now where. 2 of the E27's I have yet to see leave a slip in the 4 yrs I have been here. One does move once a year for 2-3 weeks....

That said. Ericsons have a good overall rep with folks that have them. Then again, So does Hunter! Ericson was on the upper end of quality from a basic style boat back in the day. Not as pricy as a Swan, but not as cheap as a Hunter.....

Marty
try out the ericsons' cockpits. i found them very uncomfortable. low back rests, too cramped to brace feet against opposite lockers, and shallow cockpits(great if your going through a hurricane, not so great otherwise). the ergonomics of the cockpit really is an area that can make or break the pleasure of sailing. only way to tell is to try them out to see what fits yourself.
07-16-2012 08:29 PM
CalebD
Re: Little Ericsons, big problems?

As in: This thread ended about 5 months ago per stirpes, per se.

If you caught that grammatical error you are going to have a field day around here per say[sic].
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