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08-01-2012 12:46 PM
SloopJonB
Re: nautical language rant

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobperry View Post
"Bowsprint"?????

That's my favorite. I hear it all the time.
I take sailing terminology seriously. It's our language.
Salon instead of saloon. I always blamed that one on powerboaters - I'm sure most sailors would rather drink in a saloon.
08-01-2012 12:31 PM
smackdaddy
Re: nautical language rant

And don't EVEN get me started on "foc'sle".
08-01-2012 12:05 PM
bobperry
Re: nautical language rant

"Bowsprint"?????

That's my favorite. I hear it all the time.
I take sailing terminology seriously. It's our language.
08-01-2012 09:25 AM
denverd0n
Re: nautical language rant

The bottom line is communication. If we are communicating effectively then all is well. If we are not then something needs to change.

As for phonetic spelling, misused words, and poor grammar in online postings, here's how I look at it... Communication is a two-way street, it can't happen if there aren't at least two people putting some effort into it. If you put so little effort into your posting that I can't understand what you're trying to say without putting in extraordinary effort on my side, then I figure, why bother?

That is, if YOU didn't think that your message was worth the effort to make it understandable, then why should I place MORE value on it than you did? You thought that what you had to say wasn't of much value, and I won't disagree. So, if I realize that I am being forced to make a special effort to understand a posting like that, I will just stop reading and move on.

If you notice that people don't seem to be reading and/or responding to your postings, maybe that's why.
07-31-2012 11:40 PM
smackdaddy
Re: nautical language rant

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Originally Posted by JordanH View Post
Many of the discrepancies in the original rant are only a concern in a written / online context. When speaking on deck, the difference between "berth" & "birth", "rode" & "road", "clew" & "clue" etc. are indistinguishable. The issue, on the deck, is that the crew hasn't been taught the language you wish for them to know. I'm guessing it's the captain's job to ensure his crew is educated to their standard so only one person to blame...

The issue online is as futile as trying to ensure everyone on the Internet learns and uses the correct version of "your & "you're", "there" & "they're" & "their". It's not worth arguing over.

In theory, as long as everyone on a boat uses the same name for an item, e.g "Otto" for the autohelm, then clear communication is possible... on that boat. However, I encourage any crew on my boat to learn the proper nautical terms so that they can sail on any boat, any where, and be able to communicate effectively.
This ^
07-31-2012 11:38 PM
JordanH
Re: nautical language rant

Many of the discrepancies in the original rant are only a concern in a written / online context. When speaking on deck, the difference between "berth" & "birth", "rode" & "road", "clew" & "clue" etc. are indistinguishable. The issue, on the deck, is that the crew hasn't been taught the language you wish for them to know. I'm guessing it's the captain's job to ensure his crew is educated to their standard so only one person to blame...

The issue online is as futile as trying to ensure everyone on the Internet learns and uses the correct version of "your & "you're", "there" & "they're" & "their". It's not worth arguing over.

In theory, as long as everyone on a boat uses the same name for an item, e.g "Otto" for the autohelm, then clear communication is possible... on that boat. However, I encourage any crew on my boat to learn the proper nautical terms so that they can sail on any boat, any where, and be able to communicate effectively.
07-31-2012 10:47 PM
Capt.aaron
Re: nautical language rant

And remember, yachty's are Snobby and Sailors are Knotty.
07-31-2012 10:40 PM
Lake Superior Sailor
Re: nautical language rant

This is a good reason for single handing your vessel, You can say what you want: as long as you don't answer yourself, it's all good! ....Dale
07-31-2012 10:40 PM
Capt.aaron
Re: nautical language rant

Unfortunetly for me I had all the lingo yelled into me by Grand Pa so violently that I for some time refused to use it. And then as a single handler I never had to refer to anything to anybody. My years working on a sailing school / research vessel was enlightening as to how vast the vocabulary is. Now as a merchant marine we enjoy calling the galley the kitchen and the head the restroom, line is still line, but we get a kick out of refering to the capstain as- big thing that goes round and "Put the thing on the thing and tie it" or " go left when you pass the blinky thing" . When I'm home how ever all of a sudden the kithen is the galley and the head is the head. I actually twrilled my finger pointing down like a crane instruction to my wife when I wanted her to turn down the t.v. last time I was home. It is important to know the language though, it is there for a reason but it's more important to know what things do first. The language get's absorbed eventually.
07-31-2012 08:15 PM
HDChopper
Re: nautical language rant

Whut? Them aint rubber bump3r thingy's ..

From a beginner ... no I dont know all the lingo yet it will come in time if I am allowed to participate .
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