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So what do we do here?

11K views 47 replies 22 participants last post by  Mark S. 
#1 ·
I curious...who are the members from L&A here? I'm just wondering what the JV is supposed to be about. They seem like a fun crowd, and definitely know how to throw a party.

So how do we crank this thing up? I can start spinning some Jimmy Cliff if that will get some people out on the floor.
 
#33 ·
Zee - I'm with you. This SN/LA hookup had some promise. I mean the LA people know how to make sailing appealing to the average schmo. Just look at the pics!!!! And SN had a bit of a stick up the old rumpus in the old days. It needed an injection of cool (and I can't carry the load by myself). So CD was on the right track.

But, hell! Where is the LA chutzpah? Where is the "let's fill the dinghy with breasts and see what happens" kind of attitude toward plying the oceans blue? Bob B must be pullin' a Hefner and living in an iron lung!!!

I'm very disappointed in this so-called "partnership". It had so much potential. But the LA people dropped the ball.

If you are a LA persona grata - grow a pair and step up and inject some fun into the world of sailing. Otherwise, you're nothing more than a subscriber.
 
#35 ·
It looks as if LA puts as much interest in this joint effort as there own site. I do love the rag but their Internet effort is showing. What a missed opportunity.
 
#36 ·
You know, it's the problem that all "old media" faces. How do you make it work digitally? You don't just port the magazine over. Even Rupert Murdoch gets that - and he's 128 years old.

They tried with their "TV Series" - but that sucked....just as bad as OTWA over at SA. And they tried with the radio - and that really sucked.

They had the "edge" - they just had no direction on the digital translation of that edge and how to monetize it. I thought maybe the partnership with SN was a first step toward that.

Oh well, no HuffPo payoff for LA any time soon.
 
#37 ·
latsandatts forum was decent before i was turned over to non cruisers to manage . has become the most cliquish site i have seen on internets other than 300zx.com..... not so much fun-- too many nonsailors in the mix. if you are not a friend of one of the moderators, you dont be there. i was kicked out for calling that moderator's wife inappropriate. she was. very much so.:eek:
 
#40 · (Edited)
Yeah - there's another forum that comes to mind that has always been seriously cliquish, lame and hypocritical at almost every level. But I won't go there. Different strokes for different blokes.

I actually logged on over on the L&A forum for the first time in months and saw where Bob was trying to drum up new subscriptions through a "Refer a Friend" program that gives you a store coupon for each referral. He mentioned that subscriptions had fallen off 20% over the past year - and that they needed to get the numbers up to cover printing.

See? That's the problem. He's still focused on printing. Time for a digital approach dude!
 
#38 ·
Bob and his crew are so nice and personable, I do wish them the best. I had assumed they would at least try to drum up some subscriptions. I really enjoyed the first few years of the TV show that I saw on DVD and agree with you about the rest. But it would not take much info or encouragement here to really roll. Come on LA where is the joint effort. I was a member in the LA cruisers club, but got nothing for the money except a nice membership card. I have sense put the money in the cruising kitty. But I was really hoping to be reinvigorated about this.
 
#39 ·
well life moves on and they may be kicking back and enjoying life. A lot of things change for the worse when the original people step back from operations. The passing of the reins are never easy. If that be the case. But I remember the days that I read the mag cover to cover and dreamed. Now I have the boat and still dream and I guess I will move on. But I still hope. Come on Latts & Atts, this is your link and here are 4 pages of hope, Do something, check your mail! and answer it, please
 
#41 · (Edited)
Hmm subtle Smack. What forum could you possible be referring to??

Hey Look I agree with all of the above posts. There is two sides to this partnership however, lets admit that as a 'digital medium' Sailnet is somewhat of a dysfunctional family with its only issues.

I hate to say it but the best part of this site was it's heyday and things like the articles........the range of contributors..........and the most recent one of them was like what 9 years ago???? This site is like Grandma and Grandpa's house.......yeah there may be some kids running around down here in the basement having some fun, but guys the house hasn't had a lick of paint in a decade, grandma smells real bad and can't make it down the stairs much anymore and the garage is full of old crap from the good old days.

CD is a visionary, this is one venture in which he tried, as he contiues to try to inject life here, however he is only one guy. If we all, and also the owner of this site won't also inject some life then we may well have something to learn from latts and atts.
 
#42 ·
Hmm subtle Smack. What forum could you possible be referring to??
Heh-heh. Hey "if the tiller cover fits...". No, I won't name names, but I will say that they've come a long way over the past year or so from what I've heard. I hear they're really nice to newbs now, patient with questions they think are ridiculous, and even go out of their way to greet newcomers. All stuff they used to complain about. So what's not to love? I'm just glad I could be a critical part of their seeing the light. Doing good where ever I go. That's my thing.

Now, back to the dinghy full of boobs...and definitely NOT your stinky grandmother's.

My take is that what's missing here are good, frequent articles and other content. The crap in the garage is gold - but it's old. Combining a thriving forum (like Sailnet) with REALLY GOOD, FREQUENT stories/articles some of which are technical, some of which are fun, some of which are about people out there doing it, and some of which are just salacious and fleshy, is what works. You essentially become the HuffPo and/or Newser of sailing with a combination of great stories pulled from across the media world, stories created by users, a few stories created by the editors, etc.

SA almost has it right - but they can't seem to get past the bitter nature that's part of their DNA. And that gets old after a while. Although they too are getting better.

Truth be told, the LA model (based on the biker mag thing) is pretty worn out - but I'd much rather read/look/watch stuff about scantly clad chicks having fun in the Caribbean, mixed with hard-core sailing chicks like Jeanne Socrates, mixed with casual cruisers like Zanshin who tell a good story and take a great pic, mixed with boat reviews by actual owners, etc. - than bounce around to a million sites to get all that, or go to a store and actually buy a wad of paper.

It's doable.
 
#45 ·
NOOoooooo not stanky granny o,0,,,...,,, Just need a lil l33t sall a place n33ds
At least SN got the ball and playen !

I lurked everywhere for a while but only signed up here , if I'm avg then it a trend lol

I saw no action at Latts & Atts and allways thought it was a corner stone ?( heard of them for years )

Smacky theres something bout using the words "Dink" & "Boobs" in the same sentence ....
 
#46 ·
I just got an email from Bob passing the hat (literally) for his new venture: CRUISING OUTPOST. $250 bucks gets you a 5 year subscription and the hat:

We know, money doesn't grow on trees, but the sooner we raise the cost of printing the sooner we can start the print version.
Print? Again? Oh well, I wish him luck.
 
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