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11-11-2006 07:19 PM
simple72 I agree with you guys. To be honest the surveyer didn't really point out anything I (or the broker) didn't already see. I guess I should have been up his ass a little more but I figured that's what I was paying $500 for.

Honestly, It was my opinion that a Survey on a $7500 boat was a waste of money but my co-owner insisted.
11-11-2006 11:46 AM
sailingdog This is where a much clearer explaination from the surveyor would be a good thing.
11-11-2006 09:32 AM
JakeLevi There's an article in Good Old Boat, recent issue, on changing chainplates, not a job to put off, for sure not to leave the dock with undone.

Myself I'd be removing a big chunk of the material around it, make sure its thoroughly dried out, and re-epoxy whatever super thick after its fixed/replaced checked out. The teak might be good, might not, nows the time to check. Ifnot replace with some white oak.

I agree with Paul, the surveyor should have explained it more, but if he said its a good boat cut some slack until you find out otherwise. This is another excellent example of why the buyer needs to be by the surveyor taking notes with a surveyors golden words . Agree beforehand for him to take the time to explain, its the best money spent. If they dont want to give explanations find another. But, dont expect them to do the explaining without extra payment, thats not fair either. They bill for their time and work, extra is worth extra.
11-10-2006 12:07 PM
simple72 The surveyor felt that to boat was a "good little boat" and felt that I could do the work myself. Didn't seem to daunted by the damage.

11-10-2006 11:17 AM
cardiacpaul I can't be constipated... I know 'cuz my head is up there most of the time and I can see everything just fine.
I'm on my second day of "chantix". I'm off to the boat, without smokes, I'll be sailing angry today.
11-10-2006 10:38 AM
sailingdog CP--- that may mean you're constipated...since your retention is anal...

I'd say that you might want some Nicorette gum to take the edge off the nicotine cravings...
11-10-2006 10:34 AM
cardiacpaul the cuban says something about me being "a***-retentive" ain't that the same thing? LOL
Umm, I gotta do laundry, then i can go sailing, seeya, luv ya, mean it.
(this quitting smoking thing is a bi*** and a half, please don't take anything i type here for the next couple of days too personally)
11-10-2006 10:30 AM
sailingdog CP-

it would be re-tension... Retention is the ability to keep something...
11-10-2006 09:52 AM
cardiacpaul IMHO, the surveyor should have at least taken you aside and said "lookie here bub, this(these) chainplates are leaking, and heres the resultant damage...(the core surrounding the plates may be wet, it may have seeped "a fer piece", so you've got deck repair to do as well, hope you're good with 'glass) To repair the plate leaks, you'll have to yank these doo-hickies(highly techinical term), pictures... and replace the wood that they're attached to...rebed the chainplates with xyz's fantastic chainplate sealing goop, re-tention (gawd, is that a word?) the rigging, and hope for the best. Or pay the yard about 4k to have it done. "
11-10-2006 09:36 AM
I need to keep this on the cheap

Originally Posted by simple72

I'm the newish owner of an O'day 272. The boat came cheap after the Surveyer detected some moisture in the starboard chain plate.

After reading Don Casey's Hull and Deck Repair I got the impression that I just needed to pull, inspect and reseal the plates.

Now I'm thinking that I should add the additional steps of drying the core with a heat gun, cooling then flushing the area with accetone. Then (i think) I'll dig out about a half inch of the core and fill with thickened epoxy. reinstall, seal (Boat Life), ect.

SO...three questions?
Does this sound like an appropriate course of action?

What kind of damage to the plates indicates replacement

What exectly is the bulkhead? A local 272 owner asked me "how are your bulkheads?" Many of the 272 racers out here have these threaded rods bolted to the hull that attached to the chainplate via a SS turnbuckle.

Thanks for your comments,

Rich NYC/Eastern LI

PS Keep in mind that I need to keep this on the cheap
Yikes, didn't the surveyor advise as to the scope and nature of the necessary repairs? From my experience there is often nothing more expensive than a cheap boat...If the surveyor has left you clueless, you should take this tread to an O'Day forum to find out what other owners have faced. There are a lot of these boats, you won't be facing something unique. Here's an example thread to review:

In general if you have wet core you need to dry it out, if the core has rotted you need to replace it. If you chainplates attach to a bulhead (panel) and the bulkhead is rotten, now you face some real work, this is where cheap could become expensive. Good luck.

FWIW always remember that a seller has close to perfect knowledge about the boat being sold, whereas the buyer has at best only a partial picture of what the seller knows, how partial depends on the throughness and expertise of the surveyor. At best a buyer pays what a boat is worth, often as not they pay more than its worth.
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