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08-16-2012 08:38 AM
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

Originally Posted by gfh View Post
I'm over in Bayville. I think both Trixie's Landing and Up the Creek Marina have ramps and do the drysailing thing (when they have space in their yards.) I think Cedar Creek Sailing Center has an agreement with Up the Creek to use their ramp too, and that's a very good sailing-only marina.

Im in Toms River, drop me a message and lets go for a sail!
07-28-2012 11:31 PM
Ward H
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

We looked at Mariner's Marina, Havey Cedars and Causeway Boats. Admiral liked the bath house and club house at Mariners. I liked the location.
We realized we need a finger pier to the side of the boat so the Admiral can step into the cockpit. She's not up to stepping onto the foredeck and walking back. Mariners had a floating dock pier which would work.
The plan now is to give it a try for the rest of the season and see if we like it. If we don't like the drive we will check out the Delaware River for next season.
Going to think it over the next couple of days before putting out the cash. Also trying to figure out the incidental costs which I am sure will add up.
07-27-2012 11:13 AM
Ward H
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

Many Thanks, I will check them out today. (Not enough post to PM)
07-27-2012 11:10 AM
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

I'm over in Bayville. I think both Trixie's Landing and Up the Creek Marina have ramps and do the drysailing thing (when they have space in their yards.) I think Cedar Creek Sailing Center has an agreement with Up the Creek to use their ramp too, and that's a very good sailing-only marina.
07-27-2012 10:57 AM
Ward H
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

Mariner's Marina did not mention dry dock, which I certainly would like to try instead of worrying about the slip stuff.
Which marina do you use?


07-27-2012 10:41 AM
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

I crew on an EEYC boat on the Delaware and have my own boat on Barnegat. They're both nice places. The winds on the river are generally very light through July and August, and it can get really hot and stagnant. The current is also pretty swift when it's running.

I prefer sailing on Barnegat for the size and winds, but there are lots of weekends where it's blowing 20 and there a million powerboat wakes, and you could potentially get beat up in a 17' boat in those conditions. I have a 22, and it feels small out there sometimes.

I wouldn't personally get a slip anywhere for a 17' boat. It would never be worth the expense and additional bottom maintenance for me. I keep my boat at a marina on a trailer with the rig up, so I don't need to step the mast every time, and I think my boat is probably a little more elaborate than a 17 to launch and retrieve. I don't worry much about bottom paint and the rent for keeping her on land is tiny compared to a slip. It would be nice to get in a go I suppose, but that actual launching part is probably only an extra 10 minutes on each side for me at this point. The half hour of moving coolers, carrying grocery bags, waiting for people to pee, rigging the sail, etc. wouldn't be improved if I had a slip.

Whatever you decide, have fun.
07-27-2012 09:18 AM
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

Ward, Red Dragon is just down river from my club. Your welcome to visit. We seem to have the largest sailing fleet of all the DRYL clubs. D R Y L Member Organizations When your member of any of these clubs you become a member of the DRYL also. It's huge network right down to Chesapeake Bay. There is East End YC that is all about racing. they race on Tuesday nights. many of those members belong to my club Anchor. There are lots and lots of activities at various clubs for example there's a toga party at my club Saturday the 28th, I'm helping with a nautical flea market on Aug 26th. there's a crab fest (yum) at Bristol YC.

You would lots of fun on the river. The tide; all you need to do is use not fight it. you will need a depth meter and a motor however.

Anchor YC
07-26-2012 10:04 PM
Ward H
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

Really appreciate the responses.
This is our first season sailing. Been on a lake twice. Variable winds made it hard to figure out what I was doing right and doing wrong.
Spent a week in LoveLadies on LBI 1st week of June. House had a boat dock so we launched in Surf City sailed to LoveLadies and sailed every day at least once. Nice wind most days.
I also did my ASA 101 on the Barnegat Bay out of Bayville. Wasn't a bad drive.

The DR sailing club I am going to look at is the Red Dragon Canoe Club in Edgewater Park. If I have to plan my sailing around the tide and poor odds for good wind, it won't matter if it is closer.

Jim covered most of what I like about the Barnegat Bay. I am visiting Mariners Marina tomorrow. Being on the land side, I hope to cut out a lot of traffic by not having to get on the island. Should be less than 1hr 30 min drive.
I also can take one day off work each week so I plan to sail during the week and skip the maybe skip the weekend traffic.
Jim's right, the N17 isn't really a live aboard boat but big enough to take a nap if needed before the drive home.

Thanks for the suggestions and information. Will let you know which way we go.

07-26-2012 06:13 PM
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

We have our boat on Barnegat Bay on Forked River now and used to keep it on the Delaware River at G. Winters Marina in Riverside.

Denise was right. You will need bottom paint if you stay in a slip in either location. But you'll need different paint for the river vs. the bay.

They're two VERY different sailing destinations. Currents are strong on the Delaware and we liked sailing on weeknights or early morning on weekends before all the powerboat A$$!!*^#'s came out and started throwing big wakes. It can make for confused wave patterns that might not be fun in a light 17 footer. That said the river during quiet times is really nice. My last sail there was a mild day in late October. Just me an a lot of migrating ducks on the water. Beautiful.

For us the Bay is better sailing. Larger, more varied, more places to sail to and some dock-n-dine locations. More boat traffic on weekends but not nearly as congested as the river can be.

Traffic to the shore is not bad if you're in a mainland marina as we are. We're near the Cherry Hill mall and it takes us an 1:15 door to door. We kept our boat on LBI for two seasons in Beach Haven. That was an 1:30 early morning and could be near two hours once shore traffic got going.

I don't remember the Newport 17 having much in the way of live-aboard accommodations so I'd think you'd get more use out of her on the river. If you're out sailing all day you won't feel like driving home from the shore.

If you have a place on LBI in September you could trailer her down and launch from the ramp at 12th street in Beach Haven. You might also be able to do a 1 month deal with the Beach Haven Yacht Club or one of the marinas up by the light house depending on where you are on the island. From most of the island you'll be sailing in Little Egg Bay which is much shallower than Barnegat Bay. If you're in a marina up by the light house you'll have access to the lower Barnegat bay. You could also talk with Rich at Mariner's marina in Barnegat. When you come off the island make a right on Rt 9 and it's about 15 minutes to Mariner's marina.

Best of luck whichever way you go,
07-26-2012 05:38 PM
Re: Delaware River or Barnegat Bay?

Bred and born in Barnegat and into a family that made their living on the water.; I am partial to Barnegat Bay.

But giving your distance from the Bay I would not even consider keeping a boat there. Weekend traffic in the summer will double or triple your commute time.
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