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09-20-2012 03:03 PM
ltgoshen
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

Dangit. maybe I "will" change them.
I dont want to die!!!!
09-19-2012 06:20 PM
Brent Swain
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Nope, you have ugly railings. I'll take my chances with lifelines.
Taking style over substance priorities to sea can get you killed. There was time when any lifelines at all were considered ugly. Killed a lot of sailors. Wisdom eventually began to sink thru the ivory.
I can think of nothing uglier than seeing any boat sailing away without me, while I tread water, admiring her "Yachtie" but inadequate lifelines.

I could never see beauty in dainty, fragile, yachtieness, only foolishness.

I'm no longer foolish enough to buy such naive priorities.
08-13-2012 02:10 PM
Stumble
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Not quite sure what you mean there unless it should read injuries of work which are the units I use to measure the size of my personal projects.
Lol stupid iPad autocorrect, should have been minutes.



Itgoshen,

Those rust rings through the coating are where the wire underneath have rusted so bad the rust is weeping out of the covering. That is an absolute indicator of impending failure. Generally they look fine, but those few spots condem the entire system.
08-13-2012 12:05 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

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Originally Posted by ltgoshen View Post
I don't see much in the way of rust. Mine are coated with the white covering.

Notice the small rust spot on both sides of the sheet on the lower lifeline/
That indicates a break in the covering and the rust is coming from the internal wire.

Don't trust them.
08-13-2012 11:42 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

Thanks again for all the impute, I think I will hold off for the time being. I do thing they are a bit saggy. I don't see much in the way of rust. Mine are coated with the white covering. There are no turn buckles. There is only one clip at the stern on both sides to take it loose. That hook is were you would tighten it up. It has no room left to tighten at this point. I will try to post a photo.
Notice the small rust spot on both sides of the sheet on the lower lifeline/
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08-11-2012 12:15 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

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Originally Posted by Stumble View Post
I haven't seen any that took more than a few injures of work
Not quite sure what you mean there unless it should read injuries of work which are the units I use to measure the size of my personal projects.
08-11-2012 04:43 AM
Stumble
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

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Originally Posted by msmith10 View Post
What do you mean by soft? Are you referring to reaming the holes so they don't chafe?
Sorry I wasn't clear. Yes I was referring to ensuring the holes are smooth, and where necessary installing sleaves so there are no burrs to cut the line. Other than some very old ones where the holes for the wire were just drilled into the tube (this is a terrible idea btw regardless of material) I haven't seen any that took more than a few minutes of work with an emry board to knock off a nick here and there.
08-10-2012 10:44 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
I hear you. However, if you have pipe on the top, you don't have a lifeline. Do you.
Nope, you have ugly railings. I'll take my chances with lifelines.
08-10-2012 09:05 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

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Originally Posted by Brent Swain View Post
....I always use stainless pipe , or boiler tubing, for my top lifeline.....
I hear you. However, if you have pipe on the top, you don't have a lifeline. Do you.
08-10-2012 07:19 PM
Brent Swain
Re: Replacement of vinyl lifelines

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
I'm sure I will replace my lifeline with bare wire, when I get to it. Them's the rules.......

However, I find lifelines to be fairly useless safety devices anyway. We stay in the cockpit and/or clip in.

Lifelines are great clothes lines and rail meat organizers.
My 34 inches of the deck, solid lifelines, are anything but useless. Only uselessly designed lifelines are useless. Simple solution. Design them properly, and high enough, so they are not useless. Being above my centre of gravity, I havent even come close to falling over them, in decades of full time, single handed cruising.
I always use stainless pipe , or boiler tubing, for my top lifeline, and 1/4 inch 1x19 stainless rigging wire for the intermediate. With the top and bottom of stanchions thus fully supported, the load on the bases is drastically reduced.
I'd never go back to wire top lifelines.
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