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11-03-2012 09:32 AM
jackdale
Re: Essential knots?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Since this reads funny, I'm sure you don't mean that you tie the line to a shackle and then clip the shackle to the harness. Your line has a pre-spliced shackle on the end. You tie the line directly to the harness. The shackle is on the bitter end of the knot, which you clip to the harness for safety so it can't back through and undo the knot.

I'm sure that's what you meant, just thought clarification might help.
Minnewaska - you are a mind reader.
11-03-2012 07:58 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Essential knots?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
....I just use a bowline with a safety hitch and then clip the shackle to the harness when I ascend.......
Since this reads funny, I'm sure you don't mean that you tie the line to a shackle and then clip the shackle to the harness. Your line has a pre-spliced shackle on the end. You tie the line directly to the harness. The shackle is on the bitter end of the knot, which you clip to the harness for safety so it can't back through and undo the knot.

I'm sure that's what you meant, just thought clarification might help.
11-03-2012 01:00 AM
biology
Re: Essential knots?

@jack: bowlines (with a safety hitch) are perfectly fine for ascending a mast really... especially if you're being hoisted up. The weight delivery to the knot is constant and doesn't necessarily take on a sudden load as with climbing and sustaining a fall.

As a side note, I think it's interesting how most rope companies, like New England Ropes, sells to different populations. They make low stretch lines for halyards, and then very high stretch ropes for climbing. So the low stretch line that will break you in half in a fall climbing is great for a halyard... The super stretchy rope for climbing would be a POS halyard. Either way they'll both cost you an arm and a leg.
11-03-2012 12:50 AM
jackdale
Re: Essential knots?

The climbing figure 8 is a great knot. I just use a bowline with a safety hitch and then clip the shackle to the harness when I ascend. Two halyards (or the topping lift) of course.
11-03-2012 12:34 AM
biology
Re: Essential knots?

Lots have mentioned the sheet bend... double sheet bend is handy when securing two lines of different diameter. (the larger one is the bite, the smaller makes the double wrap)

Also, figure 8 has been mentioned as a great stopper knot... agreed. A figure 8 on a bite is also the preferred knot for tying into a safety line for climbing (rock, ice, mountains, or masts). It's assumed you're using a harness.. you can use a locking carabiner to secure the figure 8 on a bite to your harness, or tie a figure 8 with a long working end sticking out, feed that through the tie-in point on your harness, and then follow the figure 8 back through with the working end. Leave at least an 8" tail, or if it's longer you can tie the tail off with numerous knots (the 8 is tested secure; tying the tail off if it's long is just to keep it out of your way). Just make sure the knot is dressed properly.
10-31-2012 05:49 PM
peterconway
Re: Essential knots?

A bowline and a square will get you through most any situation. The bowline can be untied where the square will tighten up to the point where it must be cut. To avoid looking like an idiot, make sure you can tie off dock lines correctly.
10-30-2012 11:55 AM
chucklesR
Re: Essential knots?

Truth be told Terral - I can't tie a bowline without practice. 10 years of sailing.

I can take a line, double it and tie an overhand knot with one hand, a easy bowline replacement for a temporary eye. The rest I fake. I even wear loafers because I can't keep my shoelaces tied.
10-30-2012 11:37 AM
TerralTheSeeker
Re: Essential knots?

You guys are killin' me with all your confident knot talk. I'm over here patting myself on the back for being able to handle FOUR basic ones at this point while you're talking about nuclear fusion slip knots and ninja super duper hitches with triple clove slip whatchamacallits and such. You're all my hero.
10-24-2012 11:58 AM
chucklesR
Re: Essential knots?

The most important knots are the ones you can tie with one hand.

Practice that and you'll see it's more than you think.

You will not always have the luxury of two free hands.
10-24-2012 10:57 AM
sprega
Re: Essential knots?

Clove hitch for tying fenders.... Tie a slippery clove , then tie a half hitch around the standing end with the bight. Looks good, is fast to tie and untie and haven't lost a fender in over 40 years.
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