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08-14-2012 02:49 AM
Great Scott
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

There's a Ranger 33 on craigslist Santa Barbra that looks interesting. Anybody familiar with them? I might drive out there and take a look. RANGER 33' SAILBOAT

I looked at a 33' Irwin over the weekend, looked nice except they had replaced the motor with an outboard. I'm guessing that means a lot of things you don't get like cabin heat.
08-11-2012 08:55 PM
SJ34
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

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Thanks.
So by the time you put it all in I'd better figure on a grand a month min + the cost of the boat averaged over the long run.
My average costs are just a little more than half that.

As for speed, theoretical hull speed or a little over is the limit regardless of wind speed. Some boats aren't as efficient when reefed down so you may give up some speed to weather when it's really blowing.

I'm also from the Valley and go to sea partially to get away from the heat and dust so I avoid the Santa Annas when possible. Luckily, the Santa Annas don't make it up to Ventura very often.
08-11-2012 02:20 PM
Bradhamlet
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Well the Santa Annas are an entirely new topic, when they start up this fall I will start a thread on it with some photos of wind speeds and boat speeds. They are dangerous but as long as you don't venture too far off-shore it can be very exciting. I am not talking about the 75-100 knots stuff just below 50kts. Any way it is a chance to get the storm sails out and have some fun without 12-18 foot swells. As far as boat speed in those conditions you just try to keep the boat around 6kts, anything higher starts to stress my old boat out, she is over 30 now and we don't beat her up much any more.
Brad
Lancer 36
08-11-2012 02:09 PM
Bradhamlet
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

The trailer idea is a good one, very economical. You still have a way to get into the water and without the mast you can get to the back side of the Oxnard harbor. They have a restaurant seen with ice cream shops and coffee bars maybe 5-6 restaurants along with a large grocery store, free tie ups back there too. Concerts in the park in the summer. It is less crowed than Ventura and like I said earlier I just saw a Blue whale last week maybe 4-5 miles off-shore. I know my wife enjoys the sea life the most and we have that plus fishing and wonderful sailing and boating conditions nearly year round. Take a drive down and check it out for yourself, I think you both might like it.
Brad
Lancer 36
08-11-2012 02:07 PM
Great Scott
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

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Also we get the super-charged winds of the Fall and Winter. They are called the "Santa Annas" and let me tell you there an't nothing like 40-45kts and flat water!!! wow you are in for a thrill come Oct/Nov.
Brad
Lancer 36
Always hated the Santa Annas growing up because of the dust, blody noses and fires. I never even thought about them out on the water. How much speed can you get under those conditions?
08-11-2012 02:04 PM
Great Scott
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

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+1 everything said above.

Morro Bay is the destination, Ventura is where you park your boat between destinations.

Here are the costs you can expect to pay to keep a boat in the water in Ventura:

Slip fees - $12 to $13/ft and an additional $190 -$250mo if you plan to live aboard. BTW, living aboard is the best value as the boat expenses become your home expenses.

Bottom cleaning - $1.50/ft per month

Insurance (prudent anyway but required by marina) $500 to $$$$$ per year depending on coverage, boat value, cruising area, credit rating etc. etc.

Property tax - 1% of value of boat per year

Bottom paint every 3-4 years - ~$50/ft if the yard does the work, $15 to $18/ft DIY assuming about a 3day turn around(welcome to SoCal)

The above does not take into account the general costs of upkeep such as varnish (refresher coat every 6mo to a yr), polish and wax, rigging, engine etc etc.

For all that you get a potential 365 day sailing season, the best cruising grounds in California with the Channel Islands just 20 miles off-shore, Santa Barbara 25 miles North. LA, Newport, San Diego and Mexico to the South (downhill there, beat back).

Personally, I think it's worth every penny.
Thanks.
So by the time you put it all in I'd better figure on a grand a month min + the cost of the boat averaged over the long run.

That's enough for my wife to be irritated. Funny though, it doesn't sound like so much anymore. I'm getting too used to hearing 'billion' and 'trillion' from watching the news I guess.
08-11-2012 01:56 PM
Great Scott
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

I spent a lot of time out among the islands fishing as a kid. It is nice. I grew up in Thousand Oaks. Now I live about 45m north of Bakersfield. Morro Bay / Port San luis and Ventura are both 3 hrs. from my ranch, so either would work. When we go to the beach we mostly go to Cayucos just North of Morro Bay. When I go to Ventura area I end up spending more time with relatives than at the beach.

I'm trying to decide right now whether I want to go with a boat in the water, in which case I'd go sail, or something on a trailer in which case I'd go 24' power. That may sound like apples & oranges but understand how desperate I am to just have a way to get out on the water. My wife is not an ocean person and her family has saturated her with "a boat is a hole in the water you throw money into" mentality, plus I've raised 6 kids so it's taken all these years just to get things around to where I can actually get something without catching hell.
08-11-2012 01:48 PM
Great Scott
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

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Morro Bay is a crappy place to keep your boat because there are no real destinations there other than San Simeon or Port San luis.
No...the water is the destination. 30+ years trapped in the central valley near Bakersfield. The air is brown with dust and we're on our way to 107F today and my to do list around the ranch is 3 pages and as many years long. And that's not my main business. That's why I said my goal was to escape!LOL.
Thanks
08-10-2012 11:38 PM
Bradhamlet
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Also we get the super-charged winds of the Fall and Winter. They are called the "Santa Annas" and let me tell you there an't nothing like 40-45kts and flat water!!! wow you are in for a thrill come Oct/Nov.
Brad
Lancer 36
08-10-2012 11:32 PM
WDS123
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Ventura -

Weekend on a deserted Island 4 Hours Easy Sailing

Priceless
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