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10-08-2012 09:20 AM
lancelot9898
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

No, I put three coats of natural when first doing the teak. It's the annual maintenance coat that I was talking about.
10-08-2012 09:03 AM
dvuyxx
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

Lancelot, do you mean that you just put the Cetol gloss directly on the bare wood from the start or as the maintenance coat? What is the color like?
10-08-2012 07:54 AM
lancelot9898
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

Good info Sabreman, however I do my maintenance coat with Cetrol gloss rather than the natural. I too thought that the natural had better UV protection than the gloss and started using the natural for the annual maintenance only to find out that a neighbor was using the gloss and it was holding up better than my teak. I'm now using the gloss for the maintenance coating.
10-07-2012 10:50 PM
dvuyxx
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

I used a B&D mouse sander on my toe rail. It doesn't take it down too fast. Easy to control pace. One of those belt sanders would scare me ... too fast.
10-07-2012 09:43 PM
Sabreman
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

The following link shows the process for sharpening a scraper. This is pretty easy stuff. In the tutorial, they say that you can't get a good hook with a screwdriver. I disagree in that while I don't have a burnisher, a screwdriver with a chrome shank works well for me. You only need a metal file to square & flatten the edge. Nothing exotic. Available at Lowes.

Using and burnishing a cabinet scraper

Scraper stock can be purchased almost anywhere from Lowes (pretty sure) to the online stores like Rockler and Woodcraft. Sandvik is a good brand.
10-07-2012 08:48 PM
BELLATRIX1965
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

Sabreman: Any chance that you would enlighten us with some scraper tips/hints? I agree - nothing beats a sharp scraper; the problem is that few people own (or properly use) a good, sharp file with which to dress it!

Your recommendations for where to buy scrapers and how to tune them, please?? What size/cut of file is your favorite? Thanks!


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Yup. That's how it's supposed to work. I tend to make specialty scrapers in whatever profile that I need. Sometimes, it's a concave 1" scraper or 1" convex. The variations are infinite. I tend to use a convex blade for 80% of what I scrape, rotating it toward the edge if I need a fine line.



If you stick at it, you will be able to set the hook reliably. It's just a matter of practice and I had the same problem at first and nearly abandoned the tool.

The old woodworkers like my grandfather could fly through a job like a toerail. Both my father and grandfather warned me away from exclusive power tool use - many jobs are wrecked by power tools in inexperienced hands. The quiet and efficiency of a well tuned scraper, like a well tuned plane, is a thing of beauty. And you have total control.
10-05-2012 09:14 AM
Seaduction
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

Having tried most of the methods discussed here, my preference is for stripper/scraper followed by light bleaching where necessary and then sanding lightly. The pic of the stern cap rail is cetol light with gloss overcoat. The seat is the older original cetol with gloss overcoat. I'm slowly redoing everything in the cetol light with gloss topcoat.
10-05-2012 07:24 AM
CorvetteGuy
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

Black and |Decker makes a small vibrating sander with small flat finger like attachments, concave and convex attachments also which is used in sanding spindles in funiture ect. might do the job.
10-05-2012 06:34 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

A little late to the party here.

Have you ever walked down a dock and seen a varnish job on a boat that just looked incredibly perfect? They were done by hand. Scrapers, then course sandpaper followed by fine sandpaper. No cheating, if you want a quality job, and everyone can tell.

Machines can and will subtly contort a rounded edge or put a wave in a long flat line.
10-04-2012 10:56 PM
Sabreman
Re: Power tool for sanding toe rail

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When I got everything right, the old Cetol just peeled off in lovely shavings.
Yup. That's how it's supposed to work. I tend to make specialty scrapers in whatever profile that I need. Sometimes, it's a concave 1" scraper or 1" convex. The variations are infinite. I tend to use a convex blade for 80% of what I scrape, rotating it toward the edge if I need a fine line.

Quote:
a cabinet scraper worked very well IF I set it up the “hook” just right. When I got everything right, the old Cetol just peeled off in lovely shavings. Even when I thought I had done everything the same at either end of a scraper, sometimes one end was far more effective than the other.
If you stick at it, you will be able to set the hook reliably. It's just a matter of practice and I had the same problem at first and nearly abandoned the tool.

The old woodworkers like my grandfather could fly through a job like a toerail. Both my father and grandfather warned me away from exclusive power tool use - many jobs are wrecked by power tools in inexperienced hands. The quiet and efficiency of a well tuned scraper, like a well tuned plane, is a thing of beauty. And you have total control.
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