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2 Weeks Ago 01:31 AM
jerryrlitton
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

For what it's worth, I havea Rocna 25KG on the starboard bow roller with 200' 3/8 chain. Beside it I have a 45 LB CQR with 25' 3/8 chain with 200' 3/4" rope. On the stern I have 35lb Fortress with chain and rope for Hail Mary ops. So far I have only used the Rocna on sand and mud bottoms, no problems.
3 Weeks Ago 06:37 PM
Don0190
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

I have a 60# Manson Supreme as my primary anchor and just got a 45# Mantus as my back-up. My 60# is oversize and I bet the 45# backup is good 95% of the time. But I really got the Mantus as back-up because it breaks down for storage since I don't expect to ever use it,
3 Weeks Ago 04:11 PM
colemj
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

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Originally Posted by Maine Sail View Post
No single anchor is going to be right for all situations.
I know this is supposed to be true, and we are anchored up for it with a rocna, spade and fortress, but in the past 8yrs of full time cruising from New England through the Caribbean, central and South America, and most places in between, we have never needed anything but our rocna. I think the spade would work just as well, but it breaks down so is stored instead. The fortress would not work as a primary for us, but we have it for specialty use - we just haven't needed it yet. Not in strong blows or soft mud.

I can't think of any situation where an older style anchor would provide an advantage. Even the arguments for a fisherman have not held true in practice for us so far.

Mark
3 Weeks Ago 03:13 PM
seabeau
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

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Originally Posted by colemj View Post
Are you sure about that (I don't get PS)? I know the Morgan's Cloud blog recently did this, so maybe some confusion?

It would seem that all concave anchor designs would also need to be treated the same for the same reason.

Mark
You are 100% correct, I got my two periodicals switched. It was from the Morgan's Cloud periodical. Thank you.
3 Weeks Ago 01:58 PM
Maine Sail
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

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Given the performance concerns of the Rocna in soft mud, it seems that keeping a combination of new-gen scoop anchor with a Fortress onboard offers the chance of setting in the widest variety of conditions.
We have four anchors on-board including a Fortress. No single anchor is going to be right for all situations.

FWIW the anchorage below is notoriously soft mud. This large sport-fishing boat was totaled on Aug 19th after their anchor failed to reset on a wind shift.

The anchor was on all chain. A witness claimed they did set the anchor by backing down on it (third party information). When they were off hiking the wind shifted and the boat went up on the ledge so fast, when the anchor un-set, that others who were there did not have enough time to even jump in their dinghies and try to stop it..

Once on the granite ledge the port prop strut was driven clean through the hull. When the tide came back in the boat filled with water and has been deemed a total loss. The anchor is a type many folks look to for soft mud.

Sorry the pic is grainy I snapped it as I was under sail with a phone...


An anchor needs to ability to do multiple things well, in this case if failed to reset.. I strongly doubt this owner cares much about any "anchor warranty", regardless of anchor type, at this point....
3 Weeks Ago 12:48 PM
eherlihy
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

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Originally Posted by TakeFive View Post
If true, perhaps this is why:

Mud Anchors - Inside Practical Sailor Blog Article

Given the performance concerns of the Rocna in soft mud, it seems that keeping a combination of new-gen scoop anchor with a Fortress onboard offers the chance of setting in the widest variety of conditions.
... and that's why I have both.

Also, the Fortress is a great kedge anchor. Because my FX-16 weighs only 10lbs, I could probably swim it out if the need arose. I couldn't do that with my Rocna.
3 Weeks Ago 12:19 PM
TakeFive
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

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Originally Posted by seabeau View Post
Recently Practical Sailor Magazine has removed its "Recommended" status from the Rocna brand of anchors due to apparent and repeated difficulties(filmed) in resetting when the fluke is caked with dense mud.
If true, perhaps this is why:

Mud Anchors - Inside Practical Sailor Blog Article

Given the performance concerns of the Rocna in soft mud, it seems that keeping a combination of new-gen scoop anchor with a Fortress onboard offers the chance of setting in the widest variety of conditions.
3 Weeks Ago 11:38 AM
colemj
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

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Originally Posted by seabeau View Post
Recently Practical Sailor Magazine has removed its "Recommended" status from the Rocna brand of anchors due to apparent and repeated difficulties(filmed) in resetting when the fluke is caked with dense mud.
Are you sure about that (I don't get PS)? I know the Morgan's Cloud blog recently did this, so maybe some confusion?

It would seem that all concave anchor designs would also need to be treated the same for the same reason.

Mark
3 Weeks Ago 10:13 AM
seabeau
Re: Those new fangled Mantus Anchors..Bought One...Why

Recently Practical Sailor Magazine has removed its "Recommended" status from the Rocna brand of anchors due to apparent and repeated difficulties(filmed) in resetting when the fluke is caked with dense mud.
3 Weeks Ago 07:35 AM
eherlihy Thanks for your post Brian. While you obviously have a bias, your post did not bash your competition. Instead, you focused on good questions to raise about the purchase and support of any anchor.

I will disclose that I keep both a Rocna (on my bow) and a Fortress (on my stern). They were selected for different anchoring situations.

(I can't "like" your post from my phone.)
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